Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

D. Bergin · #1 06-13-2025, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

You're both missing the point. Yes, Juan Soto is hitting .253 with 13 home runs 43% of the way into the season. That's "alright". What it's NOT though is worth $765 million over fifteen years plus silly perks!

The Mets should trade Soto to the Yankees or whoever and get the albatross of a contract off their backs. And I'm saying this because as a lifelong Yankee hater I'm a Mets fan!

LOL, if the Yankees or anybody else wanted that contract, they would have given him that contract to begin with. Forget now giving assets to inherit that contract. He's on the Mets, until he can no longer play baseball, or money becomes meaningless to the Oligarchs who will own baseball teams over the next 15 years.

Also, you're cherry picking stats. He's starting to close in on his usual .400+ OBP and is on pace for a 6+ WAR season...which is exactly what the Mets paid for.

I'm not going to get into the logistics of giving out a 15 year / 3/4+ Billion dollar contract...but I'm sure the guy who owns the team (and is worth about 20 times more then Hal Steinbrenner), and likely makes more then Soto's full contract in a single year...doesn't really need you to count nickels and cents for him.

Balticfox · #2 06-13-2025, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Also, you're cherry picking stats. He's starting to close in on his usual .400+ OBP and is on pace for a 6+ WAR season...which is exactly what the Mets paid for.

Cherry picking? No. I didn't bother to go more deeply than his batting average and home run total. And the newfangled WAR thingie I'm disinclined to check at all.

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I'm not going to get into the logistics of giving out a 15 year / 3/4+ Billion dollar contract...but I'm sure the guy who owns the team (and is worth about 20 times more then Hal Steinbrenner), and likely makes more then Soto's full contract in a single year...doesn't really need you to count nickels and cents for him.

No, he doesn't need me to count for him. In my experience rich men are really good at counting for themselves. That's typically a necessary condition to getting rich.

cgjackson222 · #3 06-14-2025, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Cherry picking? No. I didn't bother to go more deeply than his batting average and home run tital. And the newfangled WAR thingie I'm disinclined to check at all.

I'm assuming you consider stats like "Runs" and "On-Base percentage" new-fangled as well? Perhaps if you dug a little deeper than his batting average and home runs, you'd find that Soto has been on base the 4th most of any player in the MLB so far this year, which is translating to a lot of runs, which tend to help teams win games.

But as others have pointed out, its absurd to judge a 15 year contract well before the All-Star break of his 1st year in that contract.

Balticfox · #4 06-14-2025, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I'm assuming you consider stats like "Runs" and "On-Base percentage" new-fangled as well?

But as others have pointed out, its absurd to judge a 15 year contract well before the All-Star break of his 1st year in that contract.

A record setting contract means I'd expect some record setting numbers (the ones I studied as a kid on the backs of Baseball cards anyway).

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