Csa show

[JamesGallo]

I went to this show for the first and likely last time. I was looking for some pre war stuff and some select 50's card. I picked up 9 Cracker Jacks from Stan vintage cards and one other from a random seller.

My biggest issue is the amount of Pokemon and my question is what was there before the Pokemon. Was the show smaller or have the Pokemon delaers pushed out other dealers for some reason. It was a long Friday for me over 3 1/2 hours each way and I saw just about all the same dealers as I would see up here in Philly, so not worth the trip. Venue was nice with lots to eat nearby and easy to get to but damn it seemed to be nearly 40-50% Pokemon...


James G

[Huck]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

I went to this show for the first and likely last time. I was looking for some pre war stuff and some select 50's card. I picked up 9 Cracker Jacks from Stan vintage cards and one other from a random seller.

My biggest issue is the amount of Pokemon and my question is what was there before the Pokemon. Was the show smaller or have the Pokemon delaers pushed out other dealers for some reason. It was a long Friday for me over 3 1/2 hours each way and I saw just about all the same dealers as I would see up here in Philly, so not worth the trip. Venue was nice with lots to eat nearby and easy to get to but damn it seemed to be nearly 40-50% Pokemon...


James G

I live in the area and have attended the CSA show since the beginning when Marco Rol (RIP) was the promoter. The rap against CSA then was it was more of an autograph show, but I get the feeling that has reversed. There have always been some interesting non card vendors (ex. gutters, beef jerky, jewelry) but nothing like the Pokemon dealers I witnessed on Sunday. I was just chatting about the Strongsville and Philly show with a fellow collector. For me Strongsville is a 6+ hour drive just for cards. Is the Philly show being taken over by Pokemon?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Huck

I live in the area and have attended the CSA show since the beginning when Marco Rol (RIP) was the promoter. The rap against CSA then was it more of an autograph show, but I get the feeling that has reversed. There have always been some interesting non card vendors (ex. gutters, beef jerky, jewelry) but nothing like the Pokemon dealers I witnessed on Sunday. I was just chatting about the Strongsville and Philly show with a fellow collector. For me Strongsville is a 6+ hour drive just for cards. Is the Philly show being taken over by Pokemon?

While Pokemon obviously has a presence in Philly, for my money Philly has surpassed Chantilly for vintage. They have basically flip-flopped in their respective vintage positions in terms of quality.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

While Pokemon obviously has a presence in Philly, for my money Philly has surpassed Chantilly for vintage. They have basically flip-flopped in their respective vintage positions in terms of quality.

I have not attended the Philly show in ages, but the amount of vintage was impressive. With what I witnessed Sunday at CSA, I would have to agree with you.

[ValKehl]

I live near the Chantilly Show and have been going to it forever. I have also been going to the Philly Show about once every year or two from as far back as the Willow Grove days. My (sometimes pathetic) memory believes that the Philly Show has ALWAYS had more vintage, especially pre-War vintage, than Chantilly. And, I'm planning to go to Philly in September.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

While Pokemon obviously has a presence in Philly, for my money Philly has surpassed Chantilly for vintage. They have basically flip-flopped in their respective vintage positions in terms of quality.

I've never been to Chantilly but I've been going to the Philly Show for a long time and it always had a significant amount of vintage available. When I asked people if it was worth the ride to Chantilly (I'm in central NJ), I was always told that I would mainly see the same vintage dealers that were in Philly so probably not.

As for Pokemon in Philly, there have definitely been more at the last few shows than I remember seeing there, but the current setup has 2 rooms and most of the Pokemon dealers have been in the second room with a few mixed into the main room with sportscard dealers.

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

I went to this show for the first and likely last time. I was looking for some pre war stuff and some select 50's card. I picked up 9 Cracker Jacks from Stan vintage cards and one other from a random seller.

My biggest issue is the amount of Pokemon and my question is what was there before the Pokemon. Was the show smaller or have the Pokemon delaers pushed out other dealers for some reason. It was a long Friday for me over 3 1/2 hours each way and I saw just about all the same dealers as I would see up here in Philly, so not worth the trip. Venue was nice with lots to eat nearby and easy to get to but damn it seemed to be nearly 40-50% Pokemon...


James G

Dealers that stopped setting up at Chantilly have left on their own accord. They were not pushed out by Pokémon dealers. At the end of each show a contract is placed on your table and they can fill it out it or throw it way.

The broader hobby market has a demand for Trading Card Games (TCG) and Pokemon is one of the largest Intellectual Properties (IP) in the world. It’s bringing kids to shows and the market is hot in terms of top cards in sets rising and holding values. I don’t collect it, but I’m not blind to what’s going on in the hobby.

The hobby isn’t just pre-war baseball cards and certainly not the 1950-1970s mass printed stuff that is all over Chantilly/Philly/Strongsville/the National

[Leon]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Dealers that stopped setting up at Chantilly have left on their own accord. They were not pushed out by Pokémon dealers. At the end of each show a contract is placed on your table and they can fill it out it or throw it way.

The broader hobby market has a demand for Trading Card Games (TCG) and Pokemon is one of the largest Intellectual Properties (IP) in the world. It’s bringing kids to shows and the market is hot in terms of top cards in sets rising and holding values. I don’t collect it, but I’m not blind to what’s going on in the hobby.

The hobby isn’t just pre-war baseball cards and certainly not the 1950-1970s mass printed stuff that is all over Chantilly/Philly/Strongsville/the National

I have heard our pre-war market, on cards, is akin to a pimple on an elephants ass.....but I would rather collect this niche than any.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

I went to this show for the first and likely last time. I was looking for some pre war stuff and some select 50's card. I picked up 9 Cracker Jacks from Stan vintage cards and one other from a random seller.

My biggest issue is the amount of Pokemon and my question is what was there before the Pokemon. Was the show smaller or have the Pokemon delaers pushed out other dealers for some reason. It was a long Friday for me over 3 1/2 hours each way and I saw just about all the same dealers as I would see up here in Philly, so not worth the trip. Venue was nice with lots to eat nearby and easy to get to but damn it seemed to be nearly 40-50% Pokemon...


James G

Before Pokemon there were Beanie Babies.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Before Pokemon there were Beanie Babies.

Those cute little bastards have never jammed up every TPG on Earth, thankfully.