Disturbing Confession ...

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

The sort of items he sold seem to be the ones I would see and immediately think, that's fake. It's almost like junk wax the amount of signed jerseys, 8x10 generic dime color photos, footballs, baseballs, large oversized "art". You see with superstar Autographs at low tier auctions and many shows.

Those booths have always just been instant passes because I just have never trusted them.

I feel like the amount of framed jerseys especially, all framed the exact same way all in the exact same layout and style all with perfect autos all using super low quality chinese jerseys was a dead giveaway.

100%. I’m sure these dealers specifically wish this news came out 2 weeks AFTER the National instead of before, so they could get one more big pay day.

I have one item that I now doubt its legitimacy — a multi-hologram Mike Tyson Punch Out 11x14 that’s gotten WAY too visible the last couple years.

[ClementeFanOh]

This is just wretched enough to be true. I've never been a big auto guy, and
this is exactly the reason why. Trent King

[ruth-gehrig]

It pains me to read rambling....maybe later

[ullmandds]

i'lll pass on reading that mess. Moral of the story...don't "invest" in autographs!

[bk400]

I'm hoping that my low end autographed cards, like my 86 Topps Wally Backman, are safe.

If this guy wrote a self-aggrandizing confession and then drunkenly offed himself, it wouldn't be the biggest tragedy in the world.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm hoping that my low end autographed cards, like my 86 Topps Wally Backman, are safe.

If this guy wrote a self-aggrandizing confession and then drunkenly offed himself, it wouldn't be the biggest tragedy in the world.

Your 86 Topps Wally Backman is safe (good)

[jingram058]

There was a thread in the net54 autograph forum a while back stating the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake. I agree with the above: "What did you see?" "Iceberg, right ahead, sir!"

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by jingram058

There was a thread in the net54 autograph forum a while back stating the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake. I agree with the above: "What did you see?" "Iceberg, right ahead, sir!"

I suspect the thrust of the thread was “the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake … except for the ones I buy …..”

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I suspect the thrust of the thread was “the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake … except for the ones I buy …..”

LOL, isn't that the truth.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I suspect the thrust of the thread was “the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake … except for the ones I buy …..”

That’s what everyone thinks. I try to buy mostly checks but even that isn’t infallible. There’s just too many Robinsons, Clementes, Aarons, signed vintage cards and sets, that suddenly pop up in every auction in the hundreds every month. Did collectors who owned them not realize they had value until recently and were hiding them, refusing to sell them?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jingram058

There was a thread in the net54 autograph forum a while back stating the overwhelming majority of autographed items are fake. I agree with the above: "What did you see?" "Iceberg, right ahead, sir!"

There have been several of those threads in the 10+ years I have been on here. Then the bigger auto collectors and sellers always come on and say don't worry it isn't true most autographs are real.

I find it funny all the people saying that is why I stayed away from autographs when the same exact thing is and has been going on in the card world. If you think fake slabs aren't a HUGE thing, LOL, good luck with that. The grading companies adding pics of graded cards anyone can lookup has greatly helped. At least now you can't crack a newly graded card and put that flip and a lower grade card into a newly made slab without everybody knowing the card is different.

There is a fake copy of pretty much everything made being. I hear southeast Asia is a good place to find those items or find someone that will make them for you.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bnorth

There have been several of those threads in the 10+ years I have been on here. Then the bigger auto collectors and sellers always come on and say don't worry it isn't true most autographs are real.

I find it funny all the people saying that is why I stayed away from autographs when the same exact thing is and has been going on in the card world. If you think fake slabs aren't a HUGE thing, LOL, good luck with that. The grading companies adding pics of graded cards anyone can lookup has greatly helped. At least now you can't crack a newly graded card and put that flip and a lower grade card into a newly made slab without everybody knowing the card is different.

There is a fake copy of pretty much everything made being. I hear southeast Asia is a good place to find those items or find someone that will make them for you.

I remember some very smart, great, fantastic beautiful collector calling the Sports Card Hobby one big "Billion Dollar Fraud many years ago and was laughed and sloughed off. Especially when he called it a "Multi-Billion Dollar fraud". Facts are Facts...The posts AGED really well with every fly by night new company, breaking to go broke mystery fudge packs, Fake patches, fake relics and of course, the heart of it ALT today. Fake Autographs.

[egri]

Originally Posted by bnorth

There have been several of those threads in the 10+ years I have been on here. Then the bigger auto collectors and sellers always come on and say don't worry it isn't true most autographs are real.

I find it funny all the people saying that is why I stayed away from autographs when the same exact thing is and has been going on in the card world. If you think fake slabs aren't a HUGE thing, LOL, good luck with that. The grading companies adding pics of graded cards anyone can lookup has greatly helped. At least now you can't crack a newly graded card and put that flip and a lower grade card into a newly made slab without everybody knowing the card is different.

There is a fake copy of pretty much everything made being. I hear southeast Asia is a good place to find those items or find someone that will make them for you.

I suspect many of the people saying that wouldn't bat an eyelash at prewar cards that are 5s or above, and I'm skeptical. Jefferson Burdick's collection is full of rounded corners, creases, paper loss, and discoloration, and he was collecting as the cards came out. Either he was stepping over flawless examples to pick up damaged ones, or many of the prewar cards in high-graded slabs today have had work done.