Dumbasses n the internet

[ClementeFanOh]

Michael B-

If you don't find the guy's behavior tacky, I can't help you. He scurried like a
rat to a location he clearly didn't inhabit. His behavior was like that of a child.
There's no "law" against it, you know there is no "zone of control"- it was
just in poor taste (and obviously so), like cutting in a line. The woman's
behavior was also gross. It's wonderful microcosm of the horrible and
ridiculous behavior I see more and more among adults.

Trent King

[Beercan collector]

He wanted to get a ball for his kid - he walked down a half a row of empty seats tracking it and when it hit the ground he quickly grabbed it - at least it was on his row - The mean lady wasn’t even in that row she was up behind it .
I think it would be a lot harder for him Not to go after an easy home run ball

[ClementeFanOh]

Eric (Beercan)- I watched the video once. Unless that video was sped up for effect, he was past walking. And the lady was no angel either- that’s the problem. The internet folks are inevitable, neither adult was proper. Just gross all around. Glad the child made out in the end. Trent King

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Eric (Beercan)- I watched the video once. Unless that video was sped up for effect, he was past walking. And the lady was no angel either- that’s the problem. The internet folks are inevitable, neither adult was proper. Just gross all around. Glad the child made out in the end. Trent King

Fair enough - walking was probably the wrong choice

[Eric72]

I've seen countless scrambles for baseballs that left the field of play. In my opinion, this father's movement towards the ball was quite civilized. He didn't appear reckless or violent in any way.

It was on the ground. He saw it. He picked it up. That should have been the end of it. Had the other fan not reacted the way she did, I don't think anyone else would have thought anything negative about the dad's behavior. On the contrary, without the other fan's reaction, it was shaping up to be a brief little feel-good moment.

[Eric72]

Side note:

Another bad thing about all of this is the fact it was a Phillies fan. Even 1,000 miles away from Citizens Bank Park, it seems like the old "700 Level at The Vet" behavior and image will persist.

As someone who has been going to Phillies games for nearly 50 years, I dislike seeing anything that reinforces that stigma. Philadelphia fans have been booing Santa Claus, punching police horses, and throwing batteries for as long as I can remember. Approximately 1 in every million Philadelphia fans...but those are the ones people remember.

Now we have another fan's behavior to deal with, and this one traveled quite some distance to bring shame to Phillies fans.

[Beercan collector]

she’s out of control - poor doggy 🙁

[ClementeFanOh]

Hi Eric- I find we are usually on the same sheet of music, but not this time.
I watched the video again, in slow motion, and can offer these observations:

1) Most importantly, and concerning the original point of the post, the
internet witch hunt went terribly awry (shock!) and was grossly wrong.
That's awful for the improperly accused woman.

2) I've seen countless scrambles too. You are correct in that the father wasn't violent; instead, he was a sneak. This doesn't justify what he did.

3) There were actually 2 people, not one, within crouching distance of
retrieving the ball. They didn't get the chance, despite easily being closest
to it and clearly making an effort to track it. Hard to judge by video of
course, I'd say the father snuck in from 15 feet away. I mean, was he
hoping the other people had no spines, or did he actually believe his
behavior was proper? Who knows, not good either way...

4) Try this mental exercise. Imagine yourself at the grocery in an aisle. You
look down at the ground for an item on the bottom shelf, and bend
to pick it up. As you do so, you notice a $50 bill on the ground next to you.
Then you see a guy in your peripheral vision, who abandoned his cart 15
away, swoop in and grab the $50 as you are reaching for it. Said guy then
scurries back to his cart, ignoring the fact that you are still crouched
where the bill was, and apparently acting like he has all of a sudden
become invisible. Would you say something to this guy? I would...

5) You called the East Coast behavior thing- I was thinking it, you called it.
Neither party acted well, for sure. I am glad the Phillies stepped up for
the young fan.

Trent King

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Side note:

Another bad thing about all of this is the fact it was a Phillies fan. Even 1,000 miles away from Citizens Bank Park, it seems like the old "700 Level at The Vet" behavior and image will persist.

As someone who has been going to Phillies games for nearly 50 years, I dislike seeing anything that reinforces that stigma. Philadelphia fans have been booing Santa Claus, punching police horses, and throwing batteries for as long as I can remember. Approximately 1 in every million Philadelphia fans...but those are the ones people remember.

Now we have another fan's behavior to deal with, and this one traveled quite some distance to bring shame to Phillies fans.

I think the worst was when a Phillies player hit a woman with a foul ball, and as they were carrying her out on a stretcher, he hit her again. That was cold.