Ohtani or Ruth?

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he may not

Originally Posted by BioCRN

Cy Young quality arm. MVP quality bat. Ohtani.

Not close, not approximate, but literal.

His only knocks are health for pitching and not playing the field.

There is no comparison for anyone this great on 2 of the 3 most important aspects of the game (hitting, pitching, defense)...arguably the 2 most important aspects even when weighing defense...

The game as we expect it to be played is 100-120+ years old depending on where you want to draw a line and he has no peer. If he was doing this in the 1950s we wouldn't care as much about Mantle and we'd appreciate Mays for his defense, but wow, that Ohtani guy.

Ohtani may not even be the best player in the game today. Aaron Judge is a much better hitter, OPS+ 179 to OPS+ 160. Judge is a plus defender, Ohtani is a no defender. Ohtani's "not Cy Young quality" arm has been worth 16 WAR in 6 seasons. WAR is the only way to measure two completely different skill sets. Judge has been worth 8.8 WAR/162 games, Ohtani 8.2 WAR/162 games. Both elite players, but you can't say Ohtani is better.