This is why I use SGC only

[Kawika]

Something fishy here. Beckett 5 is an Excellent. I don't know if they grade cards at point five; maybe Mark Gehrigfan can weigh in. Seller should know better. I was impressed with the Beckett crew at the Chicago National; just like SGC they have an Avis We Try Harder spirit and I think they will gain a respectable place in the vintage side of things. Their holders will stop a bullet, too.

Beckett grading scale: http://www.beckett.com/estore/helpsy...?ArticleId=257

Edited after reading Brian's post: Wasn't aware of the distinction between BCCG and BVG; that's kinda stinky.

[Matt]

I think we had a some outrage over this when it first surfaced a few months ago - Beckett started a second grading system - I don't recall the name exactly; something like 'Collector Grading,' wherein the grading scale as we know it is completely shot and what you see there is a 5. No doubt confusing and bad for the hobby IMO.

As far as grading company accuracy, I think Beckett's normal BVG grading is up there with SGC, although I don't find their slabs nearly as attractive.

[botn]

BCCG (Beckett Collector's Club Grading) has been around for a number of years. For those who care...http://www.beckett.com/bccg/about_bccg.asp

[3-2-count]

I don't see the problem here. I'm sure the creases, scratches and rounded corners are simply on the holder and not the card.

[Tcards-Please]

This was mentioned a couple months ago.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...highlight=bccg


Straight from Beckett's Website:

"BCCG-graded cards (Beckett Collectors Club Grading) are completely separate and vastly different from the premium BGS- or BVG-graded cards. We can assure you that the same consummate care in handling is followed and consistent industry-leading quality of grading is applied to each and every card. As a result, BCCG-graded cards provide an eye-catching secondary market alternative to other graded card products, reaching a wider audience of fans and collectors. It features a modified numerical grading scale, with each level representing a range of standard conditions (Mint or better, Near mint or better, Excellent or better, etc.).
Furthermore, BCCG-graded cards are perfect for beginning or veteran collectors. Cards of a wide variety of star players are available in BCCG slabs. BCCG-graded cards are a perfect fit for the new collector who wants to be sure he's getting an excellent product from a trusted hobby source."

The grading of Poor or Better certainly looks to be correct for the card listed.

r/
Frank

[Ladder7]

I like BVG, but they need to stop kidding us. This BCCG thing is a shallow, money-maker that shoulda been flushed -along with the shmuck that implemented it.

To make 'em resemble the 'legit' BGS holder now, cruds up the entire brand. IMO

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Ladder7

I like BVG, but they need to stop kidding us. This BCCG thing is a shallow, money-maker that shoulda been flushed -along with the shmuck that implemented it.

To make 'em resemble the 'legit' BGS holder now, cruds up the entire brand. IMO

I agree, Steve, and the fact the topic pretty much has flown under the radar with minimal outcry on this board is kind surprising. Then again, maybe not.

Can you imagine the reaction/indignation here if PSA had taken this route in an effort to generate income?

[jbbama]

BCCG is a joke.................i have no issues with BGS or BVG however.

[mikedenero]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

I don't see the problem here. I'm sure the creases, scratches and rounded corners are simply on the holder and not the card.

Hilarious! That one made my day