Rollins- lots of hot air

[autograf]

You know, you don't see the word 'asshat' used often enough. I applaud you Jim........

[milkit1]

wow we went a week (I think) without doh doh's mentioning their political opinions as if a baseball forum really gives a crap. oh yeah... congrats Yankees.

[barrysloate]

I've never even heard of asshat...I learned a new vocabulary word today.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I've never even heard of asshat...I learned a new vocabulary word today.

With a visual to go along:

[Wite3]

No one sees the irony in the title of this post...talk about hot air.

Joshua

[barrysloate]

Thanks Jim...I tried doing that but it didn't work.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Thanks Jim...I tried doing that but it didn't work.

Doesn't work for me either. But there is more than one Bruce!

[Bobsbats]

As a life long Phillies fan, last night tweaked me a smidge to say the least. I take nothing away from the Yankees....they have a great team and they had a better team this year, so my hats off to them. As for Rollins and his big mouth predictions,......whats he supposed to say,"they are better than us, we are going to lose". As far as overrated, just ask the Mets if he is overrated, then look at his MVP trophy. The Phillies are built for the long haul, much like the Yankees of the 90's, so enjoy the win, but the Phils will be back again soon.

[oldjudge]

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

[ibuysportsephemera]

As a life long Met fan, I have always maintained that I have no problem with the Yankees, just the obnoxious Yankees fans (and I am not lumping all Yankee fans into this category). Asshat Bruce proves this with his post. Congrats to the Yankees!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

I love it when the two teams who are clearly the best, get to the World Series. It doesn't always happen. (See: 2008)

The most amazing thing to me this year was the job that the Phillies did in piecing it together. They made to game 6 of the World Series yet the starting pitcher in 4 of the 6 Series games was not on the Phillies roster until mid to late July! How did they get through the first 4 months of the season?

Truly, an incredible job by a well run organization.

(And... I love Jimmy Rollins. He is tough as can be and a true entertainer, both on and off the field. If I didn't think Jeter was going to play another 10-12 years...)

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

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As a fan that had the privilege of watching Keller, DiMag and Henrich patrol the outfield, at the old ball orchard in Da Bronx ..... I agree with everything ced by the guy from Da Bronx.

I salute the formidable Philly team, and their fans.
It could've gone either way.
It wouldn't surprise me if we have a rematch.

As for the author of this thread.
Some people love being wrong ... but this guy loves being wrong LOUD!

[base_ball]

Before last night, Yankee fans had suffered through eight years of the winningest team in baseball.

[Jim VB]

True. But in some places in life, success is measured against expectations, not against a national average.

[Orioles1954]

Wow! I know Bruce better than he knows himself. I predicted he would be on here the moment the Yanks won the WS. I'm a bit disappointed though. Where's all of the "world's greatest city" blather?

[alanu]

Congrats to the Yankees and Joba (Nebraska)!

Although I feel they are able to "buy" the series in a lot of ways, I have had great enjoyment over the previous 8 years when they tried to "buy" the series and failed.

[JasonL]

"...we take great pleasure in our latest victory."

I must have missed it, Bruce. Were you on the roster?

[Jay Wolt]

I'm a Yankees fan, always have been and naturally enjoyed the outcome of the series.
The Phillies were a tough opponent who won it all last year and they have a great core of great players.
So what was Jimmy Rollins supposed to say when a reporter asked him who will win the Series?
Of course he should predict his team to win it all.
Can't believe a thread was started in hatred as opposed to happiness about the Bombers 27th Championship.

[JasonL]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

I'm a Yankees fan, always have been and naturally enjoyed the outcome of the series.
The Phillies were a tough opponent who won it all last year and they have a great core of great players.
So what was Jimmy Rollins supposed to say when a reporter asked him who will win the Series?
Of course he should predict his team to win it all.
Can't believe a thread was started in hatred as opposed to happiness about the Bombers 27th Championship.

what's the saying? -Consider the source.
Appropriate thread title started by someone who has a history of proudly peddling hot air on here.

[hoot-owl]

Lifelong Yankee fan--five things I will take from this series:
1) Lee's 1st game masterpiece
2) Rivera being on the mound at the close of all four Yankee wins
3) Utley's hot streak
4) Damon's dash
5) Godzilla's incredible game six

With the exception of Pettitte's three year stay in Houston--when was the last time a team had four-fifteen year team mates?

[Bobsbats]

The next team to have 10-15 year teamates will be the Phillies....
Rollins
Howard
Utley
Victorino-Werth-or possibly Hammels ( despite my opinion of him as soft)
Cliff Lee.....although he doesnt have 10 years left, he should retire as a philly

One of those last 3 will still be here.

[kkkkandp]

I was ecstatic when I ran to Modell's first thing this morning to get locker room World's Champions t-shirts for my kids and me (not sure why my wife didn't want one ) and I'll be happy to get to bed at a decent hour for a change.

I have to admit, the Phillies scared the crap out of most smart Yankee fans. They were the defending champions, have a great bunch of players and I cringed every time Utley, Werth or Ibanez came up no matter who was pitching.

I was never a huge A-rod fan, but I think he finally removed his head from his rectum and started playing like a team member and it showed. Way to go Yanks!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by JasonL

what's the saying? -Consider the source.
Appropriate thread title started by someone who has a history of proudly peddling hot air on here.

At least he didn't issue any death threats with his celebratory post.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

At least he didn't issue any death threats with his celebratory post.

Do you know that for a fact? Death threats usually come by email, not on the board!

[PhilNap]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

So what was Jimmy Rollins supposed to say when a reporter asked him who will win the Series?
Of course he should predict his team to win it all.

He should take a page from the book of Jeter, Rivera, etc. He could have offered a confident response and not the cocky "5 games, 6 if we're nice". Don't think the Yankees didn't take note of such comments. At least the Redsox and their fans respect that they have a battle on their hands everytime they face the Yankees. The cockiness of Rollins and many Phillies fans just proved to be plain silly.

[nolemmings]

The only two I can think of are Damon and Hinske.

Ramiro Mendoza --not on the Bosox WS roster, but likely got a ring

[tothrk]

Originally Posted by PhilNap

He should take a page from the book of Jeter, Rivera, etc. He could have offered a confident response and not the cocky "5 games, 6 if we're nice". Don't think the Yankees didn't take note of such comments. At least the Redsox and their fans respect that they have a battle on their hands everytime they face the Yankees. The cockiness of Rollins and many Phillies fans just proved to be plain silly.

Relax. No one is making you have dinner with the guy.

[PhilNap]

Originally Posted by tothrk

Relax. No one is making you have dinner with the guy.

Just sayin' J-Roll shoulda kept his mouth shut. Oh well, too bad for him. Works for me though. Yankees Win Thaaaaa Yankees Win !!!!!!

[ChiefBenderForever]

Jim,the Twins will pay Mauer the money and I think he will stay but if they don't bring any help besides triple A players he might say no thanks and leave. To play for the Yankees is the greatest challenge in baseball and he might just try it.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by PhilNap

At least the Redsox and their fans respect that they have a battle on their hands everytime they face the Yankees. The cockiness of Rollins and many Phillies fans just proved to be plain silly.

I had the fortune of being in Boston during a Yankees/Sox playoff series and in Philadelphia this year during the World Series. The difference between the fans in Philadelphia and Boston is really striking.

[sbfinley]

As much as it pains me to say it.... Congratulations to the New York Yankees.
But as I read the original post I could only think back to a classic scene from a great movie.

Principal: Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Billy Madison: Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.

[Rickyy]

I hate the evil empire...but I'm happy my fellow countryman...Godzilla had a monster game....and I can't help but like Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera...

[howard38]

Wally Schang and Carl Mays and maybe some of the other guys the Sox traded to the Yanks around 1920 have rings w/both teams.

[barrysloate]

Think of poor Mike Mussina. He joined the Yankees in 2001 and retired in 2008. He missed all the championships by one year on either end.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Think of poor Mike Mussina. He joined the Yankees in 2001 and retired in 2008. He missed all the championships by one year on either end.

I was thinking about the Moose too!
He retired last year after his 1st 20 win season, so if he chose to
he would have been welcome to join the team at the new stadium.
BUT it might have been at the expense of the Yankees signing Pettitte.

[whycough]

The Yanks: $201,449,000 The Phils: $113,004,000 Big win there also, Yankee fans.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by whycough

The Yanks: $201,449,000 The Phils: $113,004,000 Big win there also, Yankee fans.

Yeah, why even play the games? After all, in a best of 7 series, the most expensive players always play the best.

[whycough]

Jeff: All Yankee fans love to pooh pooh the advantage of the Yankee spending. You claim that the highest priced players don't always play the best, so why do the Yanks pay them? To cover up for poor management? To cover up insecurity? To level the playing field and be good sports?

[JasonL]

I have to say that I try to have an open mind, but hear me out on this series of thoughts.
I grew up in Chicago, and I am a lifelong Cubs fan. I know suffering. I know what it is to appreciate a winning season. The couple of trips to the playoffs that I have witnessed were very special.
I have never liked the Yankees, but I have never disliked them with any true intensity either.
Until I moved out East. And I met the Yankee culture and the Mission Statement that explains any season without a title as a failure. I find that to be excessively hardcore and borderline subpar sportsmanship. Don't misunderstand - I get winning, and I certainly understand goals.
But in this case I also find it to be a gross perversion of your objective, because in a major league sport, the quality and success of your competition is important to your livelihood. This is different than the business world, so while many want to link the two and ask the skeptic "Why wouldn't you do everything you can to win?" - the real question at this point for the Yankees may be something closer to "Are we doing something special?" and I would argue that you most certainly are not doing something special. Not anymore. You are doing something rather ordinary. Since their first title, I think they've won nearly a third of the time.

Hearing the media and the fan base praise this team and this championship just rings so holllow, doesn't it? I mean, they've won 27 of these now, they have the highest payroll in the game that is designed to bring in a squad of mercenaries, and the only expectation is to win everything, all the time, all year long, and every year thereafter. So where's the upside in being a Yankees fan? think about it. All you've got is downside. What fun is that?

It's still an accomplishment. But it was an accomplishment that was paid for in full and fully expected.
YAWN! so what.
you know what I mean? It just seems so silly to celebrate this team and yet another championship with such wild enthusiasm.
I know I look at this with an outsider's lens, and from that of someone who hasn't won in a beyond overdue timeframe, so it's probably fair and right to call me a jealous loser. True enough.
But just so you know, Yankees fans, this looks totally absurd and disconnected with reality from the outside.

No offense meant. honest.
Just some frustrated thoughts from someone who must look into vintage cardboard and research to find a year when his team looked like a champion.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by whycough

The Yanks: $201,449,000 The Phils: $113,004,000 Big win there also, Yankee fans.

$88,000,000 here, $88,000,000 there, can start to add up.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by whycough

The Yanks: $201,449,000 The Phils: $113,004,000 Big win there also, Yankee fans.

I don't understand your meaning. Would you be happier if the Yankees kept their payroll at $115 million (or some other abritrary number) and just made an additional $85 million in bottom line profit? Should the money just go to George rather than the players?

The fact is that Steinbrenner has built a business that generates more revenue than his competitors. It wasn't that way when he bought the team.

The best players want to go to the Yankees because, yes, they know they'll make the best money in the business, but more because they know they'll be expected to win, AND they know that management will give them every chance to win, every year.

There are many other owners who have more money than the Steinbrenner family. They just choose to not spend it on their baseball teams. That's their choice, but the fans pay the price.

Anyway, if you don't like this system, suggest an alternative.

[calvindog]

Amazing that the Yankees don't spread the wealth around to the other teams (oh wait, they do!) so that they reduce their chances of winning. You'd think that in today's society the Steinbrenners would be more sensitive to the plights of the other billionaire owners.