5 Tool Player

[quinnsryche]

Frank Robinson, George Brett, Dave Winfield, Reggie Jackson off the top of my head. Hard to say about the deadball guys, the power power is hard to judge.

[White Borders]

How 'bout Joe Morgan.

[pgellis]

The newly elected Andre Dawson.

[insidethewrapper]

Most players are eliminated because of the speed (SB) factor. Frank Robinson only 204 SB's. I thought of Al Kaline ( 399 HR, 3000 hits, great fielder and great arm from rightfield, but only 137 SB's). I thought he was faster than that ( 4 out of 5). Was Reggie a great fielder and did he have a great arm ? I don't remember .

[Robextend]

I don't think Reggie was a great fielder.

[quinnsryche]

How about Clemente?

[baseballfan]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

How about Clemente?

i would say clemente, f. robby, winfield

[Irwin Fletcher]

Mickey Mantle? Hit didn't steal a lot of bases, but was very efficient when he did. Also, I can't speak to the strength of his throwing arm, but it's my understanding that he was a solid centerfielder before injuries wore him down.

Jackie Robinson? He wasn't a power hitter, but his .474 career SLG is pretty respectable.

[PolarBear]

Mays was my first thought. Wagner comes to mind as well. He may not be considered a great power hitter, but take it in the context of the dead ball era. Check out his numbers on stolen bases and times caught. I was surprised at his numbers.

[prewarsports]

The first true 5 Tool player was Louis Sockalexis in the mid 1890's and that is what made him such a sensation in the Baseball World for a few years. Not a Hall of Famer but possibly the most talented player of his era.

Rhys Yeakley

[Matt]

Ty Cobb &
Shoeless Joe
should be on the list.


Here is a fantastic article (with photos!) written by Charles Comiskey in 1910 for the New York Times about Cobb having all the tools.

[bbcard1]

He is thought of as the "father of power" but I am not sure Babe Ruth wouldn't be a good candidate. He was "built funny" but an all-round athlete.

Barry Bonds would probably be a great example...ironically he was not just a 5-tool player, but he also acted like a tool most of the time.

[JK]

I think you need to look at more than the total number of SBs when considering speed. I think speed can also refer to his speed in the field (granted to some extent that encroaches on fielding). Further, not all players are going to be asked to steal bases - even if they have the capability of doing so. Some teams are not going to run as much as others.

[tiger8mush]

how about Rickey Henderson?

For present players, Carl Crawford comes to mind. And Bobby Abreau. Ichiro, though he doesn't have the most power he still has some respectable pop. Jeter?

Seems like a 5 tool player would most likely be an OFer.

Rob

[Matt]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

Barry Bonds would probably be a great example...ironically he was not just a 5-tool player, but he also acted like a tool most of the time.

A 6-tool player!

[yanksfan09]

Arod's pretty well rounded and was a great short stop if you look past steroid use

[Frank A]

Rickey Henderson

[pgellis]

Henderson won only 1 Gold Glove award. He didn't have the greatest arm. One very unique thing about Rickey Henderson is that he bats righthanded and throws left handed. That is a rare combination. Many guys throw righthanded and bat lefthanded, but the other way around is very rare.

[fkw]

For his Era..... Honus Wagner was a 5 tool player.
He is 10th All Time in SB's

Bonds and Mays are in their Own League stat wise, but Bonds arm died long ago though.

After looking at a list of top SB's...
Others to consider... (not all HOFers)....... Morgan, ARod, Yount, Soriano, Winfield, etc.

[Jewish-collector]

I think Mantle before he had his injuries, Willie Mays, Clemente, and Frank Robinson.

How much better was Mays than Clemente ? Not THAT much.

[mannybb24]

Norman "Turkey" Stearnes

One of the best defensive outfielders in Negro League history.
Throw in a .350 career avg.
Top 10 in steals
and oh yeah by the way, Turkey is the all-time home run leader.

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by fkw

For his Era..... Honus Wagner was a 5 tool player.
He is 10th All Time in SB's

Bonds and Mays are in their Own League stat wise, but Bonds arm died long ago though.

After looking at a list of top SB's...
Others to consider... (not all HOFers)....... Morgan, ARod, Yount, Soriano, Winfield, etc.

Not a bad group there, but as a Yankee lifer I can safely say that Alfonso Soriano is a bad defensive player and I don't think that can be argued!