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02-13-2010, 06:21 PM
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Kevin, why not out the cards that you see in an auction catalog that you believe might be altered? What's the downside to that?
And I'm not surprised that Mastro would ignore your communications about altered cards; after all, they have no problem presenting altered items without full disclosure (until caught).
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02-13-2010, 07:16 PM
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Hummm...would be tough to out a card "I think" might be altered. Keeping in mind I have more doubts than most by the nature of my specialty. Can see where collectors might beat me with their slabs or at least give me a tasty card paper cut. Would be totally different if it could be proved though...then it would not be a problem.
Yep, even when faced with the truth Mastro just shrugged and let the auction ride...then banned me. Since it was an Americana piece, I did out it on another collectible forum. A bunch of their cards have always been questionable, as we all know. Last edited by onlychild; 02-13-2010 at 07:18 PM. Reason: correct a spelling error
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02-13-2010, 09:30 PM
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What a thread... it goes from buying from Legendary to other auction houses to card doctoring, shill bidding, etc.
It makes me want to buy material graded 1 - 3 so there wouldn't be much worry about the card being doctored. Oh yeah, I buy that crap already, but not for that reason.  Maybe I'm a bit naive but I really do believe there are honest auction houses and honest individuals that hold auctions. Speaking of which... Hey Barry, when's your next auction?
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02-13-2010, 10:00 PM
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Fred
When Mr. Crandall used to post; he swore that cards in grades 1-3 were more played with (altered) than cards in 7 or higher. So don't be so sure you're safe with 1-3
 Rich
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02-13-2010, 10:46 PM
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Is nothing sacred? I can't even buy a crappy "1" card and not be concerned
 Crappy condition cards have character!
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02-13-2010, 10:51 PM
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You'll never convince me of what he swore to because the money for 7's, 8's and 9's is exponentially so much higher and makes trimming lucrative for these cards. 
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03-04-2010, 02:11 PM
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In some obvious cases one can tell from a scan, but that is not usually the case with slabbed cards in major auctions. JimB
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