T206 Red Cobb SGC 60/Altered? on eBay

[Wesley]

Sorry to hear about this Greg.

I am surprised that SGC will not honor their buy back policy on this one.

[botn]

Well it should be an eye opener for everyone on here. I am sure they have bought back cards however I am not sure under what conditions this would happen. I suppose a card with 5 corners is not obvious enough though.

I am sorry as well that this happened. Not the error of holdering the card but their rigid stance and unwillingness to admit to making the mistake.

[M's_Fan]

In my opinion, there is not any clear evidence that the card was altered, there are many ways that the corner could have been damaged in that way naturally. Simply getting stuck under something could cause a pull in that fashion.

People often think that if a card has been graded, it has been guaranteed or certified that it has not to ever have been altered. That is simply not the case. SGC or PSA can't guarantee any card has not been altered in some way.

They can only refuse to grade a card if there is evidence, in their eyes, that it has been altered. There is a difference.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by M's_Fan

In my opinion, there is not any clear evidence that the card was altered, there are many ways that the corner could have been damaged in that way naturally. Simply getting stuck under something could cause a pull in that fashion.

People often think that if a card has been graded, it has been guaranteed or certified that it has not to ever have been altered. That is simply not the case. SGC or PSA can't guarantee any card has not been altered in some way.

They can only refuse to grade a card if there is evidence, in their eyes, that it has been altered. There is a difference.

From the back of the card, I agree it is hard to tell if the card was altered. However, from the front end, it seems pretty clear to me. You can absolutely make out the original rounded corner with the sharp corner behind it.

[teetwoohsix]

From the original ebay auction scan,to me,it really just looked sort of like a pinched/or pulled corner.But when you look at the high res scan of the front of the card,it does look odd.The high res scan of the back of the card doesn't look as strange as the scan of the front.
Either way,I hope something good will come out of this somehow...........

Sincerely,Clayton

[Leon]

I want to note that B and L Auctions gave back some compensation as a matter of good will. We are not 100% on the card. It's too hard for us to tell from the scans. Yes, it looks like there is an issue but we can't tell for sure. Greg is a good customer, and we hope he will continue to be, and SGC is still our grading company of choice for our auction business. This was an extraordinary situation, that we made an exception on, and generally speaking buyers remorse is not a reason for a return or refund. Happy collecting to all....

[T206Collector]

....that the card looks funny like that. But I have taken a close look at a lot of fuzzy T206 corners and edges through a 10x loupe and it is amazing what kinds of interesting/bizarre things you see that you never saw with the naked eye. Which is to say that I think you could have a "corner pull" on the reverse of a card that would look like that.

But the fact that the wear on the front does not match the wear on the corner that had been pulled is what makes it seem to me rather obvious that someone put a piece of the card back on there -- or put another card's piece on there.