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I don't see how we can make a positive identification without being able to see his hair or his eyes, on a tiny image. I don't disagree that there is a resemblance, and it could well be he, but that hardly is proof positive.
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Peter - There is not proof positive, but I think common sense says this is probably him due to resemblence, ears on blow up, etc. -- I would say it is more likely him than anyone else on the team. I like Brett's argument even though it can't be proved either way.
Were these panels taken from a photo/negative ? Was there a particular photographer for the orginal panel ? I don't know much about the T202's, but it would be neat to know the source of the middle panel...
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How could it POSSIBLY go this long without anyone noticing.
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It could be Joe. I am thinking it is.
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It would be very nice if the original photo could be located in an archive somewhere. Then, we might be able to get a definitive answer.
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I don't think that without finding the original photograph with subject documentation that any definitive answer can be had. But the resemblance is certainly there. Nice catch possibly.
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According to this site
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1 This is a pic of Jax sliding into third
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weird almost simultaneous posting lol
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That's funny we both had the same idea Peter.
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I think it will always remain a mystery. It could by Joe, but just as easily Terry Turner or Ivy Olson.
Turner seated with Jackson, the other two photos are of Ivy. Last edited by tbob; 05-21-2010 at 10:58 PM. |
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Turner's T207
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Peter is as usual correct and his comments not only show considerable common sense, but also uncommonly good understanding of the this particular subject. Given what has been posted - it is simply not possible to tell who is sliding into third. If a high res scan will show more detail - let's see it. If more detail is not discernable - then we'll never know unless someone finds the original photo. Absent that , there should be no conclusion as to who it is.
I think the board has made a lot of progress recently with respect to jumping all over wishfull speculation as to images, There used to be a lot more of it, and it's almost always been wrong. I'm sure Brett hasn't seen any of the numerous past threads on this subject - so I don't mean to jump all over him personally. I just don't like it because it feeds into the mind set that has allowed for so much mis-representation in the past. Last edited by bmarlowe1; 05-22-2010 at 12:15 AM. |
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Folks,
It's not the ears or nose we need to be concerned with. I think the T202 is Joe, but we need to zoom in to see his lips. Please compare with this official, authentic photo of Joe before you make your decision. Joe ain't grizzled. He's purty.
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I think some guys are hoping for sure now and will back it up because they went an bought every T202 of this out there. I looked at several different sites that I am sure would have these cards and guess what?
Someone has bought every one of these at asking prices. No way to prove its him but watch for the guys that are battling for it to be and I am sure we will know who bought into an unproved hype Might as well buy shiny stuff with that gamble!
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Looking at the Cleveland Home uniforms you will see that in 1910 and 1912 the collars were dark. In 1911 they were white.
If color wasn't added to the photo on the card the picture is from 1910 or 1912. The photo posted by other members of Jackson sliding into third could be 1911 but hard to say since the collar is turned up.
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Good find Tim ! So now we have the "magic collar theory" and no examples currently for sale. Great observation Brett, I think it might be him and interested to see how it pans out. Simple reason as to why it hasn't been noticed before- T206 Maddness !!
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