Mastro Auctions Mastro's Stuff?

Matt · #1 09-08-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

Whatever happened or did not happen with regard to the accusations should be left to the Justice System.

Yes - no need to have concern about shill bidding in an auction of the person's items accused of it. It is a coincidence that they're going to be able to sell his stuff before the FBI report.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 09-08-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Yes - no need to have concern about shill bidding in an auction of the person's items accused of it. It is a coincidence that they're going to be able to sell his stuff before the FBI report.

How do you know the timing of what the FBI is doing?

Matt · #3 09-08-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How do you know the timing of what the FBI is doing?

Fair enough. It seems as though this is an effort to sell off his collection before the report comes out, as if the items might somehow have less value after the report comes out; perhaps the FBI will beat the hammer.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 09-08-2010, 05:38 PM

I don't think there will be a report, if my understanding is correct there is a grand jury and either it will or it won't hand down an indictment, and the case will proceed from there.

calvindog · #5 09-08-2010, 05:50 PM

Poor Bill. It will really kill him to watch his stuff being sold while he is unable to work the computer and place bids on his lots. Oh well, luckily Doug is still there.

Leon · #6 09-08-2010, 06:11 PM

I think it's always a bit sad when a collector sells his collection. Bill has always been nice to me so that is the way I treat him too. If he did something wrong then let the justice system handle it. As for the long ago comment about "well, if someone shill bid you how could you be friendly with them?" I would say to that, that if I was targeted then yes, I would be very unhappy and sever the friendship. If it was a blanket issue and everyone was targeted, then I can still be friendly with that person but they will have to make restitution and pay their dues. I am sure some will take this all the wrong way and make jokes and sarcasm. That is ok too. If that is what gives someone enjoyment then more power to them. On a personal note it will be interesting to see what the Horner League Compostite goes for. From the small screenshot shown I would say mine is comparable, so it should be interesting. I wish Bill the best......

As for the selection of auction houses....a foregone conclusion. Legendary will do well with it.

Rob D. · #7 09-08-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I think it's always a bit sad when a collector sells his collection. Bill has always been nice to me so that is the way I treat him too. If he did something wrong then let the justice system handle it. As for the long ago comment about "well, if someone shill bid you how could you be friendly with them?" I would say to that, that if I was targeted then yes, I would be very unhappy and sever the friendship. If it was a blanket issue and everyone was targeted, then I can still be friendly with that person but they will have to make restitution and pay their dues. I am sure some will take this all the wrong way and make jokes and sarcasm. That is ok too. If that is what gives someone enjoyment then more power to them. On a personal note it will be interesting to see what the Horner League Compostite goes for. From the small screenshot shown I would say mine is comparable, so it should be interesting. I wish Bill the best......

As for the selection of auction houses....a foregone conclusion. Legendary will do well with it.

This isn't a comment on who might have done what in the case of Mastro Auctions but more of a general rule of mine: I assume that if I'm truly friends with someone, and they decide to engage in an activity in which they take advantage of people, I'll be spared because of that friendship. Otherwise I don't think they consider me a friend at all but rather just another mark/sucker.

(That's 100 percent sarcasm free, by the way.)

JasonL · #8 09-10-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Poor Bill. It will really kill him to watch his stuff being sold while he is unable to work the computer and place bids on his lots. Oh well, luckily Doug is still there.

I don't like to use this jargon much, but ROTFLMFAO!!!!!
My goodness, thank you Jeff. That did provide some much-needed jovialityness to my day.

I was thinking along those same lines when I read the original post, something along the lines of an addition to this excerpt:

"Bidding is scheduled to begin on Monday, November 22nd..."

Shill bidding will begin shortly thereafter.

David Atkatz · #9 09-09-2010, 06:35 AM

Has nobody noticed that many of these items had been offered--and sold--in previous Mastro auctions? How is it that Bill owns them? A number of questions regarding the Mastro bidding process now come to mind.

calvindog · #10 09-09-2010, 07:07 AM

David, in order to begin answering that question you'd need to first define the word "sold." in Mastroland sometimes lots are "sold" over and over and over -- and never leave the owner's possession. Of course, this loose definition of "sold" is not solely limited to Mastro auctions but has been regularly applied in auctions favored by many consignors who post on Net 54.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 09-09-2010, 07:37 AM

I thought Mastro employees were allowed to bid in their auctions, and I recall being told Bill himself was bidding at a live auction at a National. So couldn't he simply have won the items?

David Atkatz · #12 09-09-2010, 07:41 AM

I'm sure he did "win" the items. Think all the bids were counted?

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