Hopefully he'll be forced to sell his collection

[rholmes]

And people wonder why some people would rather find other baseball card boards to use.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by rholmes

And people wonder why some people would rather find other baseball card boards to use.

Ray - don't judge the board by one idiot.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

Ray - don't judge the board by one idiot.

Ray,

What Matt said.

[k-dog]

After reading some of your posts, I just have to ask....exactly how many..."WE's" live in that head of yours? And why do you post your opinions on these type of topics on a forum that has cards, sports and memorabilia as the primary focus? I have no idea who you are but apparently several other forum members do. Make a positive contribution to this forum toward the hobby or go elsewhere with your drama!

[oldjudge]

"...would we are sure buy a 19th century card on your want list...if Bid Ladden was the seller. So let's call a spade a spade."

"Remember you paid us a record price for a Kalamazzo Bat Team card of Pittsburgh."


I guess you proved your point

[celoknob]

Originally Posted by rholmes

And people wonder why some people would rather find other baseball card boards to use.

Is there a good one you can reference (one without Bruce) ? I would like to check it out.

[barrysloate]

The great people at Fox.....Blecch! Come on Bruce, let's call a spade a spade.

[ibuysportsephemera]

Bruce- "WE" all think that these boards are the wrong place for your nonsense. Why not post over at the Rush Limbaugh forums?

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Bruce- "WE" all think that these boards are the wrong place for your nonsense. Why not post over at the Rush Limbaugh forums?

Does anyone know What Rush collects?

[Leon]

Well, I was out yesterday when this thread started. I am going to go against the grain here. I think Bruce was within his rights to post the thread and comments he posted. While I don't want to get political, or have the board get political, Keith O is a great collector, regardless of his political views and this is certainly newsworthy stuff in my opinion. I will probably get lambasted for my thoughts on this subject but that is ok. Folks will know how I feel. I feel that as long as it has to do with vintage cards then it can be talked about on the board. I probably wouldn't have even moved this thread but since another moderator did, then so be it. I won't reverse that decision by a colleague.

How freaking stale of a place would this be if the mods were censoring stuff all of the time. How can you know if you disagree with someone, or think they are an idiot , if we don't let them express themselves? "Disagreement" makes the world go around, and there will be a lot of it in this thread, no doubt. If someone thinks this board sucks because this thread is let go, well, that is their right to say that too. In a thread like this I doubt the participants can stay private if they make strong statements, but other than that, I see no big problem with it. As far as Keith making contributions to a political candidate that is between him and his company that he is contracted to work for. I have always had good dealings with him and consider him another fine collector. I have different political views than many of my good friends on the board but that doesn't mean we aren't friends. Friends can disagree with each other and still be civil. I hope that is the way the thread goes. Those are my thoughts as of now but I reserve the right to hear arguments and change my mind if I am persuaded to. best regards

BTW, I do disagree with Bruce's thoughts, I just prefer to let him express them.

[Jim VB]

What kind of a weak-ass, "I disagree" post is that? Your entire post is missing all the spit, all the fire, all the venom!

You need to take a serious lesson from Bruce. You didn't issue one death wish, one financial collapse wish, or even a wish for failing health!


Against the grain... my ass.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

What kind of a weak-ass, "I disagree" post is that? Your entire post is missing all the spit, all the fire, all the venom!

You need to take a serious lesson from Bruce. You didn't issue one death wish, one financial collapse wish, or even a wish for failing health!


Against the grain... my ass.

I know...I need to be more of an a-hole. I am working on it though!!

[Section103]

Originally Posted by thekingofclout

Does anyone know What Rush collects?

Vicodin.

(sorry - low hanging fruit and this thread has already ...uhhh... been tarnished)

[Leon]

I am soliciting private opinions on this situation since I seem to be in a very minor subset on my thoughts on this subject. I have emailed a few of my member/friends privately, already, to get their feedback but am interested in anyone that wants to let me know your feelings on banishment or suspension, pertaining to Bruce starting this thread. I still don't see the severity rising to that level but I have been wrong before. Please email to leonl@flash.net if you would like to give your opinion. I just think this will be a more stale place if we start censoring very much....but what do I know? If we don't let folks hang themselves how will we know what they think?

Thanks to anyone that wants to give your opinion to me...I appreciate the help and insight. best regards

[benchod]

I say let it ride Leon,
I have to hand it to Bruce; I almost never read this section of the board but this post got me over here.
Good. bad, or ugly Bruce starts entertaining threads.
Personally I thought his post was ironically hilarious on so many levels.
I'm pretty sure Keith would never need to squeeze two nickels out of Bruce. Bruce would also probably be the first one to wet himself if he ever got the chance to see Keith's collection.

BTW I'm also sure Keith probably receives a lot worse, hateful comments than what Bruce said.

[Rob D.]

Knowing that the groundlings are being solicited to help decide his fate might be punishment enough for Bruce.

[Hankphenom]

"Yankee 51" is free to express his opinions, of course. And I am free to reply that he is a fool, and a rude one at that.
Hank Thomas

[kcohen]

Does anyone know if Olbermann has a particular focus to his collecting?

And Hank, you behave yourself.

Ken

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by kcohen

Does anyone know if Olbermann has a particular focus to his collecting?

And Hank, you behave yourself.

Ken

Ken,

I have sold Keith some cards in the past. His "focus" seems to be very widespread. He has an extensive collection in all areas, from vintage to modern. He was truly a very nice guy to deal with. He hates to mix politics and the hobby.

[ibuysportsephemera]

I have sold a few different baseball items to him on eBay in the past. He was a quick payer and never asked me about my Political leanings. In terms of him being a collector, he is OK with me.

[chris6net]

I hope Bruce,s health is fine and you won,t find a better collector than Bruce. I have met him several times over about 30 years and even though we collect on different levels he was very helpful in person. CN

[thekingofclout]

Damn it! Ever since Olbermann bought a couple of high grade pieces from me I've been trying to hook him with some of my ebay listings. Such is life...

[bobafett72]

"He hates to mix politics and the hobby"

hear hear!

[HRBAKER]

Bruce is provocateur, he posts most often for the purpose of getting a reaction. Many take the bait. In this instance he is reveling in someone's misfortune bc that person is on the opposite side of the political spectrum from him. I don't give a rat's patoot if you ban/punish him or not. The best medicine is to ignore him for it is the attention/reaction he seeks most.

As an aside for MSNBC to get self righteous about one of their commentators making a political donation is inane. No one considers these people, regeardless of the network, to be impartial newspeople. As pointed out these folks are entertainers plain and simple.

[autograf]

HR is always the voice of reason and sanity.......I'm up in the air about banning. Sometimes it's nice to be reminded just how much of moron Bruce continues to be. I think he's a sad, lonely person who revels in others misery. As for Olbermann, there's probably not 1-2% of what he espouses that I agree with but this is America (last time i checked) and he's got a right to say it. In fact, he gets paid a LOT of money to say it. I'm sure a few days or weeks off without pay won't hurt him, but I don't see where MSNBC (GE) comes off by suspending him. I guess he knew the policy but for commentators to be held to the same standard as a newscaster seems odd to me. I've sold stuff to Keith and as a collector I certainly respect his collection. He was always nice to me in any transaction. Hopefully saber heads will prevail and he will be back. I liked him much more on Sportscenter however.

[Leon]

After giving it more thought and soliciting opinions on what to do, it was almost a tie. It was about 50/50 on banning/suspending. Personally, I never thought this thread, and Bruce's posts, arose to that level of punishment, and I still don't. As few people know, but has always been on the board, there is a personal section when you click on someone's name. You can find contact info, all of the member's posts and threads and other board related info. There is also a section that says "Infractions." If you look under Bruce's infractions you will see that he still has one there (the very few times we have given an infraction we have usually made them for one year). So, Bruce had one still active. I am not sure if that was when he got suspended from before, for a month, or not, but it swayed my opinion to take an action. He is suspended from the board for 2 months. It's not a matter I take lightly and I hate to do it, but I feel it was warranted because of the previous infraction....not to mention the other 3 moderators were of a different opinion than I on this matter. This is the part of moderating I don't care for..Lets please get back to collecting........best regards