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Al C.risafulli · #1 03-26-2011, 01:24 PM

All due respect, Leon, I think you're mixing registry collecting with high-grade card investing, and I think those are two very, very different things.

There are cert buyers out there, for sure, and I agree that with those people, they sometimes seem to be as concerned with the number and the GPA than the cards in their set. When I encounter people like that, it makes me think of those guys with showrooms full of classic automobiles that they'll never drive.

But the overwhelming majority of people I've met who use the registries to supplement their collecting are passionate, knowledgeable card collectors.

For the record, I don't see anything inherently "wrong" with either approach, BTW. I have a collection of vinyl records. It numbers about 4000-5000. I am a terrible record collector. I have no idea what I am doing. When I buy used records, I want them to be in great condition - so that I can go home and play them. I don't care about their rarity, I'm not trying to complete anything, I have no focus, I'm just buying stuff I think I'd like. I have 1970s punk records and 1960s opera records, rare 7" vinyl and mass-produced Readers Digest compilations. "True" record collectors would cringe if they saw my records, mostly because I don't know how to collect like they do. When I spin them on the turntable, though, I'd suspect that the music moves me in the same way as it does the "true" collector.

-Al

E93 · #2 03-26-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

I have a collection of vinyl records. It numbers about 4000-5000. I am a terrible record collector. I have no idea what I am doing. When I buy used records, I want them to be in great condition - so that I can go home and play them. I don't care about their rarity, I'm not trying to complete anything, I have no focus, I'm just buying stuff I think I'd like. I have 1970s punk records and 1960s opera records, rare 7" vinyl and mass-produced Readers Digest compilations. "True" record collectors would cringe if they saw my records, mostly because I don't know how to collect like they do. When I spin them on the turntable, though, I'd suspect that the music moves me in the same way as it does the "true" collector.

-Al

I have a vinyl collection too that sounds similar to yours, though not as big. I also just buy what I like and am very unsophisticated as a collector. The most I have spent on a vinyl album was $100 for a rare 1st edition of John Coltrane's outside-LSD induced-big band experiment, Ascension. It is transcendent!
JimB
P.S. Well preserved vinyl sounds better than any digital format too.

Davalillo · #3 03-26-2011, 06:46 PM

I don't think most graded card collectors collect for the competition. I have 500 or so sets in the PSA set registry and there is not one of these I am actually competing to have the best set. Its fun to see where I stand on the registry but I just like to have all my sets in psa 8 or better and look sharp....and I am a passionate as anyone about collecting. There is really no difference in the pssion that graded card collectors and raw card collectors bring to the hobby...its just that graded card collectors are smarter(just kidding on that last statement).

Jim

Leon · #4 03-26-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Davalillo

I don't think most graded card collectors collect for the competition. I have 500 or so sets in the PSA set registry and there is not one of these I am actually competing to have the best set. Its fun to see where I stand on the registry but I just like to have all my sets in psa 8 or better and look sharp....and I am a passionate as anyone about collecting. There is really no difference in the pssion that graded card collectors and raw card collectors bring to the hobby...its just that graded card collectors are smarter(just kidding on that last statement).

Jim

I know you are very passionate about your collecting. I admire that very much. I certainly didn't mean my comment way above, the way it came out. I just gave my opinion, concerning some collecting I have seen, but also didn't mean to put down the way anyone collects. We had a very nice, fairly long chat at the National and I hope we can do it again at the next one. If you aren't doing anything Friday night you should come over to the Net54baseball dinner. It will be a lot of fun and I would love to see you there.

Davalillo · #5 03-26-2011, 08:10 PM

Its cool Leon. I was in Dallas Thursday. I was going to give you a call to come down to the Mansion at Turtle Creek for a drink. I have never seen so many good looking ladies in a bar in my life. Also had a terrific meal at Ocean Prime. Two thumbs up for Dallas.

Also Leon--appreciate you pointing me to rarites sold by you and others. Love the cards I bought in your last auction. They are adding a cool dimension to my collection. I love prewar cards but beyond the 10-15 most popular sets I don't know a lot about the sets themselves.

All the best,

Jim

tbob · #6 03-26-2011, 11:37 PM

I used to be a "raw card only, I hate the slabs" guy years ago but now I have an equal number of cards graded as ungraded. I love having the sets like T205, T206, T207, T212s etc. ungraded, raw in pages, all together. On the other hand, all my caramel cards and M cards are slabbed for several reasons: I wanted them protected, they are easier to re-sell when I pass on and my family inherits them, plus I like the way they look, especially in SGC holders. I likewise have all my T210s graded and slabbed, mostly in SGC holders for eye appeal.
As far as registry sets go, several of my sets of slabbed cards are in all 3 holders- SGC, PSA, and GAI, so they will never make it to #1 without massive cross-grading. That's fine. I do not employ the registry sets as a compulsive drive for the best set, I use them to help identify and prove value in case my cards are ever stolen. It's something we should all think about.

ethicsprof · #7 03-27-2011, 12:18 AM

no such births here, anthony!!!
just silly playfulness with ole al who i'm always glad to see around here.

bob,
i'm relieved that you still have the gai's. I've been holding onto mine ever since you and I agreed ages ago that gai was pretty good for a period of time, which admittedly seems like ancient history now.
I have the monster in mostly sgc, a few dozen of psa, 2 or 3 dozen of gai,
and 2 or 3 bvg's. They've basically been 'protectors' for me and never felt the need to spend the bucks for the sake of homogeneity,etc. I don't think i've ever sold a card myself---traded once in a blue moon.
When i saw that you'd sent 26 or so of your gai's to sgc(the old address)
i began wondering if i'd best put my thinking cap back on.

all the best,
barry

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