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Old 04-04-2011, 10:21 PM
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Default Leon, I understand your position, but ...

Understanding that you need to be substantially less involved in personal quarrels, I will say this: If I am going to be shot at by someone for something I said, IMO, they need to be a real person with a real name. On the board. Accountable on the board, not in private emails, after you tell me who it is that's shooting at me. If I'm getting shot at in public, I want to respond in public. So when I send you the email about who is shooting at me, get the answer, and post that full name on the board, is that an infraction? If so, why?

I personally am not too satisfied with being attacked by some tool who doesn't even have the guts to post his or her real name due to alleged "privacy" issues that causes them to be anonymous while they're shooting at you. Being "private" is all well and good until you enter the fray. Then, IMO, you should forfeit that right. Understanding that was the problem which caused this post in the first place, the proposed solution doesn't fix it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:37 PM
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One cool thing about having a common first and last name combo... I don't think that anyone can find me by searching for Matt Hall.

I'm pretty sure that it is much easier to find out who someone is by their email address. I think everyone's email address is public here too right?

Plus, there are bigger privacy concerns then net 54 on the internet.

If you haven't seen this website, type you name in search, see what they have, and opt out:

http://www.spokeo.com/name-search?g=...FQELbAod3Godqw
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:35 AM
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One cool thing about having a common first and last name combo... I don't think that anyone can find me by searching for Matt Hall.

I'm pretty sure that it is much easier to find out who someone is by their email address. I think everyone's email address is public here too right?

Plus, there are bigger privacy concerns then net 54 on the internet.

If you haven't seen this website, type you name in search, see what they have, and opt out:

http://www.spokeo.com/name-search?g=...FQELbAod3Godqw
Does that actually find stuff about you? For me all it had was an address that I moved from 10+years ago. And that with an incorrect middle initial. I'll be leaving that up there. A bit of disinformation goes a long way. (Facebook thinks I'm over 100 years old )
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:05 AM
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:11 AM
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I don't care what you cut and paste you won't be bitching at companies on this board and hide behind a user id. Whatever you just posted is NOT rules for this board. They are posted for all to see. Either you can abide by them or leave. No one is forcing anyone to post or be a member here. So if you want to bitch just be assured you will be known. I suggest you consult your lawyer again.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:41 PM
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Understanding that you need to be substantially less involved in personal quarrels, I will say this: If I am going to be shot at by someone for something I said, IMO, they need to be a real person with a real name. On the board. Accountable on the board, not in private emails, after you tell me who it is that's shooting at me. If I'm getting shot at in public, I want to respond in public. So when I send you the email about who is shooting at me, get the answer, and post that full name on the board, is that an infraction? If so, why?

I personally am not too satisfied with being attacked by some tool who doesn't even have the guts to post his or her real name due to alleged "privacy" issues that causes them to be anonymous while they're shooting at you. Being "private" is all well and good until you enter the fray. Then, IMO, you should forfeit that right. Understanding that was the problem which caused this post in the first place, the proposed solution doesn't fix it.
Hi Kenny
And I am not comfortable with how it's been going. Give me a solution that works for everyone. Now, that being said, I think if you re-read my statement you will see that there is an "out". And by "out" I mean if someone gets too out of control then their name can be put on the board...otherwise, I am all ears.

ps...not sure about you putting the name out there. If I say yes, it will cause a sh** storm and if I say no it will cause a sh** storm...tough one...I am sure I wouldn't give you an infraction...maybe a verbal warning
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:48 PM
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So my question stands and remains unanswered: When I send you that email, get that name, and publicly post it, what happens?

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Old 04-04-2011, 10:49 PM
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So my question stands and remains unanswered: When I send you that email, get that name, and publicly post it, what happens?

Kenny
And my answer stands...did you read my PS in the post?
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:51 PM
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asked my question as you were editing your answer, but it's still not an answer
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:54 PM
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asked my question as you were editing your answer, but it's still not an answer
Really..... I said it would be a verbal warning .
Kenny- I don't think people should be able to hide behind their USER ID's.....it ain't going to happen on this watch. However I want to also give our members a place where they don't have to have their name in lights for all of the reasons mentioned. I am still listening for the perfect solution.
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:30 AM
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-thought better of it and deleted post.

Leon, thanks for keeping your humor

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Old 04-05-2011, 06:22 AM
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Default There is no perfect solution

Thus:

"Privacy" is a back seat in controversial issues. If you want to post on those threads --- that is your right -- but it is also everyone else's right to know who is saying what about them.

I will put in a caveat, if a thread gets controversial AFTER a few posts -- and you posted early before anything broke out and did not instigate in any way --- then you are OK with that. This protects someone from posting in a thread like looking for partners in REA Lots and then 20 posts later a war breaks out. Obvously, you had nothing to do with that issue and thus why should you be penalized.

But, if you make a post in a thread knowing it's controversial, then I agree with Kenny and David, your name needs to be out there.

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