Collecting Around The Fringes: T206

[mrvster]

Clayton!

Those are some sweet wet sheet transfers....thanks for postingif that sov 460 w/ the el principe de gales was occurred at factory, you will have an absolute GEM! nice card there Clayton if its not stacked due to "moisture", but not sure how to test that....let us know if u do that experiment, i'm interested...

Johnny

[Howe’s Hunter]

Will be Stuck In Omaha again starting Thursday morning. Will try and post something when I return. Thanks, Paul.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Clayton!

Those are some sweet wet sheet transfers....thanks for postingif that sov 460 w/ the el principe de gales was occurred at factory, you will have an absolute GEM! nice card there Clayton if its not stacked due to "moisture", but not sure how to test that....let us know if u do that experiment, i'm interested...

Johnny

Thanks Johnny- not sure how to test it either, don't want to do it with any of the raw cards I have now,, maybe down the line get a couple of real beat up cards, get them a little wet and let them sit on top of each other for some time? Don't really know how else to try it. Thanks for the nice words, I really enjoyed your cards also...you must have a very unique and awesome collection.

Sincerely, Clayton

[mrvster]

Sounds good, try it out!

thanks for the kind words....send me an email, i'll send u some more pics...

[steve B]

Regular moisture shouldn't cause a transfer. Lithographic inks are oil based so they won't be affected by moisture. Some sort of oil based solvent would be needed.

I've become extremely leery of transfers, especially any involving black ink. I recently bought a couple items- Card proofs of stamps from the 1880's- neither of them had any transfers. When they arrived from the UK having been shipped together in the same inner envelope the black one had left a very solid transfer on the other one. So the ink hadn't actually dried in roughly 130 years!

The printing process was different, but the ink used was also oil based. Lithography uses less ink than engraving, but all that will likely be needed to produce a transfer of a black back is pressure and a bit of time. And since the base of the inks is probably the same, it should work for other colors as well.

Steve B

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by steve B

Regular moisture shouldn't cause a transfer. Lithographic inks are oil based so they won't be affected by moisture. Some sort of oil based solvent would be needed.

I've become extremely leery of transfers, especially any involving black ink. I recently bought a couple items- Card proofs of stamps from the 1880's- neither of them had any transfers. When they arrived from the UK having been shipped together in the same inner envelope the black one had left a very solid transfer on the other one. So the ink hadn't actually dried in roughly 130 years!

The printing process was different, but the ink used was also oil based. Lithography uses less ink than engraving, but all that will likely be needed to produce a transfer of a black back is pressure and a bit of time. And since the base of the inks is probably the same, it should work for other colors as well.

Steve B

Thanks Steve, I know you know your printing and appreciate your input on this. I also remember when you posted about the stamp situation.

I have a question- if a card came into contact with an oil based solvent, wouldn't there be some type of obvious staining on the card (from the solvent)? Also, wouldn't it do some type of damage or smearing to the front of the card that the transfer is on?

I'm just wondering if I took a T206 and placed it on top of a white sheet of paper with a little weight on it, say for a week or two, do you think I'd have a light print from the back on the white sheet of paper?

Sorry for all the questions- I appreciate the help.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Howe’s Hunter]

Unfortunately, the backs are in reverse order. Took the easy way out of just flipping the pages in the scanner

[Mikehealer]

Nice Ed. They look pretty cool all lined up together.

[Howe’s Hunter]

This gets to just short of halfway through the ones I've gotten so far. Getting funny looks from the boss who knows I'm getting nothing done today, so probably should stop for now....