Collecting Around The Fringes: T206

[steve B]

Regular moisture shouldn't cause a transfer. Lithographic inks are oil based so they won't be affected by moisture. Some sort of oil based solvent would be needed.

I've become extremely leery of transfers, especially any involving black ink. I recently bought a couple items- Card proofs of stamps from the 1880's- neither of them had any transfers. When they arrived from the UK having been shipped together in the same inner envelope the black one had left a very solid transfer on the other one. So the ink hadn't actually dried in roughly 130 years!

The printing process was different, but the ink used was also oil based. Lithography uses less ink than engraving, but all that will likely be needed to produce a transfer of a black back is pressure and a bit of time. And since the base of the inks is probably the same, it should work for other colors as well.

Steve B

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by steve B

Regular moisture shouldn't cause a transfer. Lithographic inks are oil based so they won't be affected by moisture. Some sort of oil based solvent would be needed.

I've become extremely leery of transfers, especially any involving black ink. I recently bought a couple items- Card proofs of stamps from the 1880's- neither of them had any transfers. When they arrived from the UK having been shipped together in the same inner envelope the black one had left a very solid transfer on the other one. So the ink hadn't actually dried in roughly 130 years!

The printing process was different, but the ink used was also oil based. Lithography uses less ink than engraving, but all that will likely be needed to produce a transfer of a black back is pressure and a bit of time. And since the base of the inks is probably the same, it should work for other colors as well.

Steve B

Thanks Steve, I know you know your printing and appreciate your input on this. I also remember when you posted about the stamp situation.

I have a question- if a card came into contact with an oil based solvent, wouldn't there be some type of obvious staining on the card (from the solvent)? Also, wouldn't it do some type of damage or smearing to the front of the card that the transfer is on?

I'm just wondering if I took a T206 and placed it on top of a white sheet of paper with a little weight on it, say for a week or two, do you think I'd have a light print from the back on the white sheet of paper?

Sorry for all the questions- I appreciate the help.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Howe’s Hunter]

Unfortunately, the backs are in reverse order. Took the easy way out of just flipping the pages in the scanner

[Mikehealer]

Nice Ed. They look pretty cool all lined up together.

[Howe’s Hunter]

This gets to just short of halfway through the ones I've gotten so far. Getting funny looks from the boss who knows I'm getting nothing done today, so probably should stop for now....

[Howe’s Hunter]

Last two.

[Mikehealer]

Ed, is that two Foster Hindus, nice.

[shaunsteig]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

This gets to just short of halfway through the ones I've gotten so far. Getting funny looks from the boss who knows I'm getting nothing done today, so probably should stop for now....

What does the stamp read? can't make it out from the scans. just curious. impressive volume and variety, must have taken quite the effort I can only imagine.
thanks,
--S

[Howe’s Hunter]

The stamp is of Howe McCormick, 500 W. Main St., Gainesville, Fla. I've got 169 in my collection now (waiting for delivery of #170 in the next couple of days) and know of 29 others. Posted here is about the clearest of the stamps on any of the cards ...



Started four years ago this month. Never imagained that a 14 to 17 year old could have collected that many and have that many survive 100 years later....

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

The stamp is of Howe McCormick, 500 W. Main St., Gainesville, Fla. I've got 169 in my collection now (waiting for delivery of #170 in the next couple of days) and know of 29 others. Posted here is about the clearest of the stamps on any of the cards ... Started four years ago this month. Never imagained that a 14 to 17 year old could have collected that many and have that many survive 100 years later....

I am sure you often consider just how big young Howe's collection was at its apex. What do you think? Can you extrapolate from the 199 you know of that you're only scratching the surface -- say 10%? Or do you think you're much further along than that?

[t206hound]

I have a fondness for T206s with double names or full name on top. I'm fairly picky about the "quality" of the miscut. Thanks to Tim, Johnny, Jason, Jerry and others who have helped me pick up some nice cards along the way.

Here are a few of my favorites:
Chase/Zimmermann........................................ ............................ Cobb Bat On


Moriarty.......................................... ......................................... Stephens

[Leon]

What the heck (now shown 1,347,288 times)....I don't collect T206 in particular but do like oddities and backs....and I am sure there were over/under bets on how long it would take me to show these, so didn't want to disappoint .