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Old 12-12-2011, 02:10 PM
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Makes about as much sense as 'If you are on vacation and don't know your house is being robbed, is your house really being robbed?"

The answer for both questions is Yes.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:31 PM
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But if your house is robbed while you are on vacation, you will be able to tell as soon as you get home.

Unless they only stole 1 sock, that you seldom wear...

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The defendant's argument in court will be, "The house was robbed, but it wasn't really robbed."
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:39 PM
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You see the same scenario in comic book collecting.

Has a microscopically thin sliver been taken off an edge to sharpen an tiny abrasion? One expert says maybe, another says "can't tell." Some collectors make the decision to not lose sleep over something that is so minute that 999 out of 1,000 people would never know the difference anyway.

As much as I love autograph collecting, it is riskier than most hobbies in that a forgery is worth zero. In other hobbies, if something has undisclosed restoration or some sort of alteration, it can be worth far less, but it is still worth something.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:51 PM
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The real question is 'If a card is doctored and no one knows, does it matter?"

Clearly, the card has been doctored. Even the question says it is.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:39 PM
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As much as I love autograph collecting, it is riskier than most hobbies in that a forgery is worth zero.
But if you have an autograph forgery encased in a plastic tomb or with some chemical smeared on it, it is not worth zero.
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But if you have an autograph forgery encased in a plastic tomb or with some chemical smeared on it, it is not worth zero.
However, if you have a forgery encased in a plastic tomb, and the forgery is discovered, then it is back to being worth the plastic it is encased in. (I realize many, if not most, don't get corrected or found out about)
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i agree, a forgery in plastic is impossible to undo. its not worth zero , it has alphabet soup certification, and many people collect the certs, not the autographs.
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But if you have an autograph forgery encased in a plastic tomb or with some chemical smeared on it, it is not worth zero.
So cynical, Richard!

I see the point. However, the same could be said for non-TPA autographs that have been deemed forgeries. Nothing is stopping an unethical owner from passing it along to an unsuspecting buyer.
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So cynical, Richard!

I see the point. However, the same could be said for non-TPA autographs that have been deemed forgeries. Nothing is stopping an unethical owner from passing it along to an unsuspecting buyer.
True Zip, but if it is in a plastic tomb it most likely won't even get questioned by most.
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