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Old 12-22-2011, 09:27 AM
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PLAGIARISM?

Ted, no disrespect but you have taken information shared with you from folks including me and posted it here as your own or with no mention of sources short of a select few folks for years. I would be careful dropping the plagiarism bomb…people in glass houses you know.

I’m also not going to get into heated debate with you on this either. But if you look back I’m sure you can think of times when you have used someone’s nugget of info when typing out your threads without taking time to mention or call credit to that person for the piece of info re shared.

I think we all can a be a bit guilty of that after all it’s a hobby in which much of the knowledge is word of mouth vs. written.

As for prints and no-prints within Sovereign I’ll let you Tim & Jim hash that out.

John

P.S. To the rest of the guys Barry, Frank, Ted etc. these guys spent a lot of time on this so in the 11th hour begin busting chops on some names you feel they need to add is silly IMO. In the end it's their site they could have as easily listed no names like Chans site. I'm also not taking this stance because my name is listed Tim & Jim can drop my name I could care less still a good site. All I care about is collecting cards having fun and no scammers.

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:27 AM
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PLAGIARISM?

P.S. To the rest of the guys Barry, Frank, Ted etc. these guys spent a lot of time on this so in the 11th hour begin busting chops on some names you feel they need to add is silly IMO. In the end it's their site they could have as easily listed no names like Chans site. I'm also not taking this stance because my name is listed Tim & Jim can drop my name I could care less still a good site. All I care about is collecting cards having fun and no scammers.
I really have to second this point. This site was put together by these people and can choose the content and contributors they feel are warranted. This is a great resource and it didn't take long to get attacked here. Enjoy the site for what it is. you can always start your own and put your own contributors.

That being said, great site guys & Happy Holidays to all,

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Old 12-22-2011, 11:10 AM
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Kind of sad how much crap they are getting for creating the site.

Great job guys, again. Love all the articles as well, especially the Olbermann/Doyle story.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:29 PM
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PLAGIARISM..........
The act of "stealing" a person's hard work and intellectual property, without accrediting this person.
Envy (also called invidiousness) is best defined as a resentful emotion that "occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it."

Spray some Windex on your wounds and get over it Ted!
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:48 PM
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I praised the site... it's good. it's useful. I thanked them. I didn't sling crap at it, I'm not envious, and I do care about the weather in Baltimore.

But notwithstanding the 'clean slate' claim, there should be acknowledgements to Mr. Egan and his list, Mr. Hietman and his Monster, Mr. Lipset and volume 3 of his Encyclopedia, Scot Reader and his Inside T206, the massive collecting, collating, and information sharing of Ted Z, and others, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Sloate, there are more... The guys that put that site together have feuded with some of those that deserve recognition. The makers of that fine site should acknowledge what went before, and failing to do that they detract from their own site.

I don't need mention there. But I have come to regret selling some cards to some of the folks associated with the site. And I still say it's a good site. Thanks again, guys, for putting that together. And if me thinking that has some of you thinking I'm silly, that's fine with me. Maybe silly me should cut and paste the entire Net54 Vintage Pre-War baseball card site, cut out your various names, and create a book about old ball cards. No need to attribute anything to anyone, evidently.

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Old 12-22-2011, 05:54 PM
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I praised the site... it's good. it's useful. I thanked them. I didn't sling crap at it, I'm not envious, and I do care about the weather in Baltimore.

But notwithstanding the 'clean slate' claim, there should be acknowledgements to Mr. Egan and his list, Mr. Hietman and his Monster, Mr. Lipset and volume 3 of his Encyclopedia, Scot Reader and his Inside T206, the massive collecting, collating, and information sharing of Ted Z, and others, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Sloate, there are more... The guys that put that site together have feuded with some of those that deserve recognition. The makers of that fine site should acknowledge what went before, and failing to do that they detract from their own site.

I don't need mention there. But I have come to regret selling some cards to some of the folks associated with the site. And I still say it's a good site. Thanks again, guys, for putting that together.
Well-said, Frank.

(edited to remove my comments which added nothing to the conversation that hasn't already been said).
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:17 PM
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There is no "envy" regarding this new T206 site on my part. If you'd bother to read thru some of these posts you would catch my initial response to
this site at post #55 ........

" Quite a cool site, well done....and, very user-friendly. "


It appears that you are a newbie on Net54; therefore, you most likely are unaware of the year-long "bashing" towards me on this forum by Tim & Jim.
Telling everyone that my prior research regarding T206 cards is fraught with errors. When this same research has been lauded by most on this forum
for the past 7 years.

ENVY....that's a nasty 4-letter word that best describes Tim & Jim to a tee.

So, now I discover that this new site has errors in its checklists and I dare to bring this to their attention.

Well look Rick, have you ever heard the expressions......

Turn-about is fair play

Or perhaps......

What goes around, comes around


Next time, before you post what you did, try to be more informed. Instead of jumping to unfounded conclusions.

And,for now, I will ignore your subtle ethninc slur in that last line of yours.


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Old 12-22-2011, 07:14 PM
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First let me state Nice Job guys on the site. As a non collector of t206s it was great to see something like that put together. I loved to look at all the info that was placed there and the site will continue to evolve as more information becomes available. But really guys this is why many of us have stopped posting . The stink some of you make about who should get credit,who should be mentioned,whos horn needs to be blown! Jees cant you just give credit where credit is due!. Then we start with Plagiarism! Some of you are grown men that act like 5 year olds. Like it was stated by someone else in one of the posts if you want credit (or think you need ego boosting ) start your own site. Then you can put your name on it in big red capital letters.
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Edited to remove my comments, which were useless. My apologies - I was bored.
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