My Heritage auction experience - Update

t206hound · #1 02-13-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342

Post your scans so we can compare?

+1... those are some super hi-res scans on the heritage site and I didn't see any wrinkles at all.

rainier2004 · #2 02-13-2012, 04:00 PM

My scan sucks but i was thinking i was getting a nice colored cj with a lttle writing on the back accounting for grade with a soft lower left corner. Ill stop now, Im taking the wife out for valentines.

chaddurbin · #3 02-13-2012, 04:03 PM

this didn't deserve a whole thread.

it's a 30...expect wrinkles/creases. if you have a problem take it up with SGC (spoiler: they will also tell you it's on par for the grade).

Bicem · #4 02-13-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chaddurbin

this didn't deserve a whole thread.

it's a 30...expect wrinkles/creases. if you have a problem take it up with SGC (spoiler: they will also tell you it's on par for the grade).

agreed

effe · #5 02-13-2012, 04:04 PM

Did you use the "look closer" function? A 30 certainly seems like a reasonable grade for this card. What specifically did you ask them before close?

chaddurbin · #6 02-13-2012, 04:12 PM

my guess is OP was expecting something like a psa4mk...a VGEX card with writing that knocked it down to a 2. the board's popular opinion makes SGC out to have some super tough, strict grading standards...but most of the time they put their pants on one leg at a time and have similar standards to us mortals.

CJs hide their wrinkles well, and it's not surprising they don't show up on hi-res scans.

Jaybird · #7 02-13-2012, 04:13 PM

Heritage is one of the few auction houses that I don't complain about the scans. When you hit the closeup, you can see it 6x bigger than the actual card. Not sure they can do much more than that with an SGC 30 card. I'd be happy if all auction houses didn't describe the card at all but provided those large scans. I don't need to hear about "corners that will draw blood, etc.". Just show me the scan. Which is what they did.

If I see an SGC 30 that looks too good to be true, I look deeper until I find the thing that caused it to be graded that low. Occasionally I don't find anything but sometimes I do. And I would certainly expect it.

autograf · #8 02-13-2012, 04:14 PM

Hmm.........the card does look awfully bright in the photos but like the others, I'd think it was consistent with the grade--with or without creasing. A 2 is a 2. Thought the price was okay and the $8.25 is a fair price for shipping. 15 days is a little long but their shipping department ships stuff for ALL different kinds of auctions. I could see it being that way. It's easy to think the larger guys should have quicker shipping but that's not always the case. Have always found Heritage to be easy to deal with and the scans are second to none--at least size-wise. Good luck whatever happens with it.......hopefully you get some resolution.

glchen · #9 02-13-2012, 04:29 PM

Steven, I can just tell you as the others have, that the card is consistent for the grade (SGC 30/2). Heritage gives some of the largest scans possible, just larger than just about any other auction house and even virtually all ebay listings. I really don't know anyone with consistently larger scans. However, some imperfections just do not come across in scans. I know that I scanned a card once, and when I was getting ready to ship the card to the winning buyer on ebay, I saw a surface crease that I could only see when the card was looked at from an angle. And from that angle, it was REALLY obvious. This was a graded card also. I offered to let the buyer cancel the transaction or receive a 25% discount in the price, which he decided to accept. This could be the case for this card.

This is the thing about ebay. In general, buyers love ebay for the DSR's because the general feeling is that this improves customer service. However, sellers hate it because they feel the system is being abused. In general, I still think you get better deals and better service on ebay than you do from auction houses. However, there are just some cards that you don't see on ebay (or at least not often enough) for real auctions, which is why you still end up going to auction houses.

Ladder7 · #10 02-13-2012, 07:00 PM

I gotta say, the scan says vg or vg-ex to me. No wrinkles visible on that ginormous scan. Are they Photoshop'd out?

Heritage has a guy that posts here. Lets hear the other side. Jonathan?

murcerfan · #11 02-13-2012, 05:30 PM

INCOMPITENT

classic!

Wite3 · #12 02-13-2012, 05:38 PM

INCOMPITENT

classic!
Reply With Quote

Beat me to it by 1 minute! +1

rainier2004 · #13 02-13-2012, 05:50 PM

Yeah, I suck at spelling....I get it, I get. Like someone said, I was expecting a nicer 2...i thought writing would knock down the grade? Ifs its a tpg 4 with a mk whats that makes it w/o the qualifier?

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

slidekellyslide · #14 02-13-2012, 06:00 PM

In the magnified scan on the Heritage site I can see a small wrinkle on the reverse side. Maybe you need a bigger monitor?

Jaybird · #15 02-13-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rainier2004

Yeah, I suck at spelling....I get it, I get. Like someone said, I was expecting a nicer 2...i thought writing would knock down the grade? Ifs its a tpg 4 with a mk whats that makes it w/o the qualifier?

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

I think it's a darn good looking card for a "2". So, in effect, the higher price for that "2" is because it presents well. Though I really don't know the market for that card so I couldn't tell you if that is high or low for that card.

Runscott · #16 02-13-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rainier2004

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

Steve, I know I'll get ripped for this, but here goes. Several of us had a bad experience with Heritage in their November auction (shipping delays), and Chris came on the board and made it clear that he would make everything right - he didn't say how, he just promised us. He then went overboard trying to fix the situation. Since then, I've won items in two additional monthly auctions of theirs, had a small issue in one and a billing problem in another, and each time they bent over backward to rectify things.

They have some problems, no doubt. I think it's because they are a huge company and the left hand often doesn't mesh with the right. However, all the issues (shipping, auction descriptions, etc.) can be rectified through their customer service. If not, contact one of the Chris's. As many issues as I have run into with them, their selection and these two guys have caused me to keep going back.

irishdenny · #17 02-24-2012, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by autograf

Hmm.........the card does look awfully bright......... Good luck whatever happens with it.......hopefully you get some resolution.

Tom, I gotta ask... Was that a bit of Sarcasm gone undetected?
If Not, I thought it was funny anyway

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