Mickey Mantle ball

smotan_02 · #1 03-16-2012, 07:37 PM

These threads are getting old. Same conversation, different item.

thetruthisoutthere · #2 03-16-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smotan_02

These threads are getting old. Same conversation, different item.

Then don't read them, Scotty. Your choice.

thetruthisoutthere · #3 03-16-2012, 07:45 PM

I didn't want to disappoint Travis.

Hank Aaron forgery. Sold by Todd Mueller Autographs.

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David Atkatz · #4 03-16-2012, 08:04 PM

Don't worry, Chris. You never disappoint.

travrosty · #5 03-17-2012, 01:09 AM

diversions are their only tactic. they cant get traction on a (yawn) issue that they have beat into the ground so they bring up someone else.

They didn't get heritage to do the right thing, I did, my friends did, at personal cost to boot.

They defended heritage and the authentication companies, when even heritage couldn't defend it anymore and gave in to what the collecting public really wants, truth in advertising.

Meanwhile, all collectors in the hobby will benefit by heritage changing their ways and stop claiming authentication when there was none.

haulsofshame features a purported copy of a ty cobb cut encapsulated by you know who and we are suppose to believe a 10 dollar hank aaron that is backed by a refund guarantee or a 20 dollar morales mickey mantle is suppose to get us excited.

when 1300 dollar unguaranteed ty cobbs are out there with the certification that is suppose to be the most credible and bring in the most money on the online auction sites, the traditional auctions, and the card shows.

keep showing the small stuff and let's let the big stuff with the most credible certs (in the eyes of collecting public) slide by when the xerox copies are purportedly making the rounds.

I ask the same question they ask. Just how are they authenticating these items over there at encapsulation central? I know they are suppose to be using exemplars, but when the exemplar matches the specimen in question EXACTLY, that is a problem, isn't it?

Their answer or rebuttal to all of this? - Mueller of course.

I personally like this hank aaron much better

Fuddjcal · #6 03-17-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by travrosty

diversions are their only tactic. they cant get traction on a (yawn) issue that they have beat into the ground so they bring up someone else.

They didn't get heritage to do the right thing, I did, my friends did, at personal cost to boot.

They defended heritage and the authentication companies, when even heritage couldn't defend it anymore and gave in to what the collecting public really wants, truth in advertising.

Meanwhile, all collectors in the hobby will benefit by heritage changing their ways and stop claiming authentication when there was none.

haulsofshame features a purported copy of a ty cobb cut encapsulated by you know who and we are suppose to believe a 10 dollar hank aaron that is backed by a refund guarantee or a 20 dollar morales mickey mantle is suppose to get us excited.

when 1300 dollar unguaranteed ty cobbs are out there with the certification that is suppose to be the most credible and bring in the most money on the online auction sites, the traditional auctions, and the card shows.

keep showing the small stuff and let's let the big stuff with the most credible certs (in the eyes of collecting public) slide by when the xerox copies are purportedly making the rounds.

I ask the same question they ask. Just how are they authenticating these items over there at encapsulation central? I know they are suppose to be using exemplars, but when the exemplar matches the specimen in question EXACTLY, that is a problem, isn't it?

Their answer or rebuttal to all of this? - Mueller of course.

I personally like this hank aaron much better

I really am starting to find itt laughable how anagonistic you are...Nobody is sticking up for third party??? Talk about being a sensitive little girl.

HERE's THE IRONIC PART OF THIS PSA WILLIE MAYS/Hank Aaron debacle CARD TRAVIS>>>><>

I AM THE ONE who sent this great example of PSA blundering stupid mistake to Steve Kocshal and AUTOGRAPH alert about 4- 5 years ago...LOLOLOLOL

put that in your pipe and smoke it Analogy Boy!!!!!

FUDD calls them likes he sees them, so stop with your petty stupid games already.

can we just stop at Christpher Moral less is a fraudulant criminal disgusting human being and PSA/JSA are incompetent boobs sometimes????

RichardSimon · #7 03-18-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by travrosty

keep showing the small stuff and let's let the big stuff with the most credible certs (in the eyes of collecting public) slide by

Travis you know for the most part I agree with you regarding the alphabet boys but I recently received four baseballs to examine. Ruth-Gehrig, Mathewson ss, 1955 Dodgers and a Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri-Huggins. The client paid $30,000 for these four balls.
They were all decorated with shiny stickers, on each ball there was one from the seller and two from noted FDE's. All IMHO were not authentic. I checked out one of the baseballs with Brandon and he laughed at the thought that Ruth and Gehrig could have been around to sign such a modern ball.
Now the guy is out 30 grand and asking me how can he get his money back? This was a prime example of the FDE's costing someone serious money. And the sellers website is loaded with similiar examples of items priced in the thousands and all with FDE COA's.
So it is not just small stuff when we talk about who is bad here.
FDE COA's don't always equate to "small stuff."

David Atkatz · #8 03-18-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Travis you know for the most part I agree with you regarding the alphabet boys but I recently received four baseballs to examine. Ruth-Gehrig, Mathewson ss, 1955 Dodgers and a Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri-Huggins. The client paid $30,000 for these four balls.

Gee. He paid $30k for four baseballs easily worth $100k++ if genuine. And he's surprised they're not. (Not to mention he has you look at them after he's bought them.)

A fool and his money...

Bilko G · #9 03-17-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smotan_02

These threads are getting old. Same conversation, different item.

i enjoy these type of threads tremendously and there are other threads that i find boring and repetitive, guess what? i dont read and comment in the threads i don't like

HOFAUTOS · #10 03-17-2012, 04:50 PM

The Hank Aaron/Willie Mays autographed card is just a "mechanical error" as called in the graded card world. The wrong label went in the wrong slab. Not a big deal at all.

Mr. Zipper · #11 03-17-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

The Hank Aaron/Willie Mays autographed card is just a "mechanical error" as called in the graded card world. The wrong label went in the wrong slab. Not a big deal at all.

Of course it was a administrative QA issue. But that is not nearly as juicy as pretending that PSA actually doesn't know the difference between Aaron and Mays.

David Atkatz · #12 03-17-2012, 06:47 PM

No different than pretending that Morales doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

Mr. Zipper · #13 03-17-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

No different than pretending that Morales doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

I agree with your definition. But, people outside of the forum may not be aware of the distinction.

Fuddjcal · #14 03-18-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

No different than pretending that Morales doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

Exactly David!!!! and Alphabets pretending that they know exactly What they are doing

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