Was I Shilled??

[danmckee]

Blatant shill and morons who don't care are idiots in my opinion! It is fraudulent dealings and I don't care if you are lawyers or not!!!!

[vintagetoppsguy]

I'm in the minority here. I don't think it's a shill either.

[abothebear]

Its obvious to me what has happened here. The bidder is using the wrong search bar and is accidentally only searching this one seller's items. He doesn't even realize there is a huge world of ebay out there to buy from. Poor guy, and he lost the auction to boot.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by abothebear

Its obvious to me what has happened here. The bidder is using the wrong search bar and is accidentally only searching this one seller's items. He doesn't even realize there is a huge world of ebay out there to buy from. Poor guy, and he lost the auction to boot.

This particular seller is well known in England. They could have been a regular on their website or mailing list and registered with Ebay to make it easier to buy from them.

I've sent Ebay plenty of new bidders through my website through the years.

Is it an Ebay rule to "spread the wealth around" when you sign up with them?

How do you explain almost every single one of these supposed "shill bids" are "Buy It Nows"?

I don't even buy that much on Ebay anymore. But I've had plenty of months I've only bought from 1 or 2 sellers.

Seems people jumped the gun and are being stubborn here, and not paying attention to any actual facts.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Seems people jumped the gun and are being stubborn here, and not paying attention to any actual facts.

One of my pet peeves about this community is its propensity to do just that.

I don't have a dog in this fight -- other than being called an idiot moron for not caring about shill bidding -- but I often pull my hair out by a lack of critical thinking here. Just because you are not getting engaged on your points doesn't make them invalid.

If I actually cared about "when auctions get shilled" I would have reviewed the facts here. But since I don't care a whit about being shilled myself, coming to the aid of other people who are concerned about getting shilled just isn't my cup of tea.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Blatant shill and morons who don't care are idiots in my opinion! It is fraudulent dealings and I don't care if you are lawyers or not!!!!

Morons who care are also idiots by definition.

[steve B]

A suspect pattern isn't always shilling.

I was the underbidder on a cycling jersey from the 48 olympics, but got a second chance offer about a half hour after it ended. The pattern looked like a clasic shill. Newish bidder, all activity with the one seller. (Sound familiar?)

I decided to let the second chance offer go till later, but not to report anything.

About a month and a half later a second jersey was offered by the same seller. The first one had stains from poor storage. The second one didn't.
I won the second one for a good deal less than the first sold for.

I checked the other bidder again just to see if the pattern held.
Nope, over the weeks in between they had bid on stuff from about 20 different sellers winning about 25% of the time.

The seller was the son of the rider in 48 and had raced himself in 64. And his grandfather raced in the 28 olympics. I've picked up some other great stuff from him, and I'm very glad I didn't accuse him of shilling.

Steve B

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Blatant shill and morons who don't care are idiots in my opinion! It is fraudulent dealings and I don't care if you are lawyers or not!!!!

Well, this idiot thinks you are being reactionary and stubborn. How do you explain almost every bid by this "shiller" is on a "Buy It Now" auction?