Just a Little Concerned About This.....

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Why don't you point out to him that is says Dover reprint right on the card.

I didn't even notice that until Al mentioned it. The perforated edges jumped out though.

Scotty, yes, I wanted the PSA 4, and I was also wondering if anybody here owns the actual card. I'm assuming this kid stole the image.

There was no return address on the package, just the name Rose. The seller's name on the Paypal transaction: "M Rose"

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The latest:

Dear mroserestoration2012,
My Ebay seller ID has 1679 positives and 0 negatives, 5/5 stars for all categories. I've been a PSA member for 13 years, and my '38 Goudey PSA graded set is more than 20% complete.
- remembering_ruth

Dear remembering_ruth,
I think your ebay rating is awesome. I sold you the right card is my point. The issue is not your ebay rating. It is the fact that I sent you exactly what I said i was going to send. I do not know why you are doing this. I have several other Goudy cards that I have sold. I have never had an issue like this before. I think you need to do your homework on the card I sent. You will find it authentic
- mroserestoration2012

The word "awesome" in his reply jumped out like the perforated edges did = young 'un. The up and comer didn't even know how to spell Goudey. He or she said I should do my homework, so I started this thread to meet his or her request.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

You will find it authentic
- mroserestoration2012

didn't even know how to spell Goudey.

Sounds like you might be dealing with the Cincinnati Cousins. Now that their Honus Wagner hasn't been selling they thought they would deal with lower end items.

[HBroll]

Hi Greg,
I hope everything works out ok for you. This guy needs to be thrown off eBay and into jail. Keep us informed.
Howard

[Clutch-Hitter]

Received a message from sleeveless today:

Dear remembering_ruth,

I am attempting to cancel our transaction. I apologize for using a pic of another card that was exactly like the card I sold. I have a buyer for the card so please send me the same card in the same screwdown container. I am new to eBay and in no way was trying to be misleading. I sent you an authentic Goudy card. I did not know that the container would effect the card's authenticity. It doesn't seem to matter to my new buyer. Please let me know asap so we can resolve this issue and I can maintain my perfect eBay seller rating. Thank you

- mroserestoration2012

Having to pay for return shipping doesn't seem right at all. If I did, and because he still has an ebay account, that would confirm that there are no consequences for blatant scams on ebay. Besides, I definitely don't believe he'd refund my money either way unless forced to do so. I have until May 8 to agree to cancel, which seems like a second layer of scam.

[thecatspajamas]

Greg,
You should NOT agree to the cancellation request he sent. Certainly not before getting your money back. All that agreeing to the cancellation will do is allow eBay to refund the commission fees back to him. Personally, I would deny the cancellation request to be sure he gets stuck with the fees for his fraudulent transaction (technically, you'd be saying you still want to get what you paid for, which he obviously can't provide). Work with Paypal (or Paypal / Bill Me Later in this case) to get your money back. It's a sloooow process, but they are the ones with their fingers in his bank account and are far more likely to get your money back than this kid who was running a scam from the start.

If Paypal/eBay asks you to return the card to him for a refund, make sure you use tracking for the return so that you can prove when it was returned to him. If you told them it was a counterfeit card, they may not even require you to return it. Just know that on the other end of the claim, Paypal will have already frozen the funds associated with the transaction in this kid's account.

If he's trying to get you to cancel the transaction now and send the card back to him, it's only so that he can take advantage of another trusting bidder. You don't have to be in a hurry just because he is. If it's a long, painful process to get your money back through Paypal, might as well make him suffer along with you.

[buymycards]

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

I'm not sure how involved the inspectors are in regard to eBay cases, but I would think they would be interested in this.

Rick

[Clutch-Hitter]

Lance,
I declined the cancellation and spoke to Paypal. The rep I spoke to echoed what you said, stating it is a lengthy process, and I will not have to spend my money returning a card that carries no value. She said a counterfeit and a reprint are one and the same. Thank you for the information.

Rick,

I'm in the process of checking into that. Thank you

[Wite3]

Just FYI,
Hemet Sheriff might be able to help...

951-776-1099
800-950-2444

He should be reported just for his different scams if nothing else and might already be on their radar.

Joshua