FS: Two signed 1920s Yankee baseballs SOLD!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Again unlike you, Richard, I have absolutely nothing to hide. So let's try to clear some of the smoke you've been blowing up everyone's asses.

In 2005 I purchased--for my own collection--a Ruth/Gehrig ball. It came with a full PSA/DNA certificate.
In order to raise cash to pay for the '27 ball, I decided to sell it, and listed it on eBay. I posted large, high-res close-up photos of all sides (as I always do), and, not being a complete idiot, I mentioned it was PSA authenticated, and posted a large photo of the letter.
I received a few offers. One, in particular, was from a would-be buyer in Southern California. I told him his offer was a bit low. He replied, asking me if I had a number in mind, but before I could answer, the auction was pulled. I then replied, and told him what had happened. He was still interested, asked for a scan of the cert, and sent it to PSA. Evidently, he was OK with what they told him, because he purchased the ball. Before doing so, though, he said he was going to bring the ball and CoA to PSA, and if they determined the cert was bogus could he return the ball to me. I assured him he could.

So, yes, I sold the ball after eBay pulled the auction. I answered Jon's question by marking both postings "SOLD."

If anyone feels I did anything dishonest, please get in touch, or feel free to post here. I really would like to know.

And the fact that ebay pulled a PSA certed ball did not raise any alarms with you?,, how interesting, you had a buyer already so why think about it more than was necessary.
And you felt confident that if he brought the ball to PSA that they would get it right? (hmmm,,, who was trumpeting bravos to Peter Nash for his expose of PSA and Babe Ruth balls, could that have been David? yes it could)
WOW!!! talk about a hypocrite.

[mr2686]

Maybe I missed this, and if so I'm sorry, but does anyone know why the ball was pulled by ebay considering it had a PSA cert? I mean, PSA is approved by EBAY, right?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Maybe I missed this, and if so I'm sorry, but does anyone know why the ball was pulled by ebay considering it had a PSA cert? I mean, PSA is approved by EBAY, right?

There is someone that ebay listens to now, over and above PSA.
I have to maintain that persons anonymity but a PSA cert is no longer a guarantee that your item is untouchable on ebay.

[mr2686]

Doesn't seem hard to figure out who that person might be...and would explain a lot.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Doesn't seem hard to figure out who that person might be...and would explain a lot.

People who can remove items from ebay need anonymity, so if you think you know who it is, please keep it to yourself.
Guaranteed it was not me who removed the ball from ebay.

[yanks12025]

Well David has always been helpful when I've asked him about a item.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

And the fact that ebay pulled a PSA certed ball did not raise any alarms with you?,, how interesting, you had a buyer already so why think about it more than was necessary.
And you felt confident that if he brought the ball to PSA that they would get it right? (hmmm,,, who was trumpeting bravos to Peter Nash for his expose of PSA and Babe Ruth balls, could that have been David? yes it could)
WOW!!! talk about a hypocrite.

Hah! So now the final arbiter of whether an autograph is genuine is whether some anonymous person has it pulled from eBay. I suppose, Richard, if an item you listed on eBay that has a PSA cert was pulled, you'd just throw it away.
The ball has a PSA certificate, and the buyer a) knows it was pulled from eBay, and b) can return it if he's unhappy. If anyone but Richard has a problem with that I'd love to know. In fact, I'd love to know how Chris--PSA's unofficial spokesperson--feels about that.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hah! So now the final arbiter of whether an autograph is genuine is whether some anonymous person has it pulled from eBay. I suppose, Richard, if an item you listed on eBay that has a PSA cert was pulled, you'd just throw it away.
The ball has a PSA certificate, and the buyer a) knows it was pulled from eBay, and b) can return it if he's unhappy. If anyone but Richard has a problem with that I'd love to know. In fact, I'd love to know how Chris--PSA's unofficial spokesperson--feels about that.

Chris was the one who pointed it out to me originally. I had not even looked at the thread you started at that moment in time.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hah! So now the final arbiter of whether an autograph is genuine is whether some anonymous person has it pulled from eBay. I suppose, Richard, if an item you listed on eBay that has a PSA cert was pulled, you'd just throw it away.
The ball has a PSA certificate, and the buyer a) knows it was pulled from eBay, and b) can return it if he's unhappy. If anyone but Richard has a problem with that I'd love to know. In fact, I'd love to know how Chris--PSA's unofficial spokesperson--feels about that.

The person is well known and extremely knowledgable, well known to the people on this board.
My items on ebay do not have PSA certs. In 12 years of ebay selling I have never posted an item on ebay with a PSA cert.
And if I ever had an item on ebay that was pulled, I would certainly want to clarify its authenticity rather than race to sell it. You were in such haste because you had a buyer, that you did not even care about the ball being pulled. If you did care you would have investigated it further like you did with the 1927 ball when Chris and I started to post about it. You asked the person you consider to be an expert. Why not ask him about this ball after it was pulled? Would have been easy and quick.
And the guy who bought the ball from you has obviously bought the cert and we have been through that buy the cert BS numerous times on this board.