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Old 08-20-2017, 03:41 PM
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Default E91 scans matched up with scans of cards from other sets

After years of procrastination (scanning and tracking down images just seemed so painful) I have decided to re-post this article. I have not revised anything in it, which I probably should have, but have scanned (or borrowed from the internet) comparison cards for each of the E91A subjects so the collector can visually judge for themselves if what I claim in the article makes sense to them. Since writing the article I found a good match for Plank (E95), found an exact photo match for Shay on the internet, and have determined that Devlin is actually a pretty decent representation based on the comparison cards. I even threw in some T206 cards just to make more people interested, and a few non-exact matches even when I have the exact match.

Sorry about varying size and quality of the scans, as well as the uneven printing on the article...curse my printer!

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Old 08-20-2017, 03:47 PM
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Default Cards with exact photo likeness

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Old 08-20-2017, 03:54 PM
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:03 PM
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Default Accurate Representations, and the two profile cards Chance and Overall

These are the ones that I do not have a photo match, but I believe are accurate representations of the player's face. The Chance and Overall E91 cards are profile shots, so I do not have a very good match, although I think the Overall seems to share facial traits. Long ago I have actually seen the exact action photo of Reulbach that was used, and on this card they duplicated the body. The Chance...well, what can you do.

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Old 08-21-2017, 08:22 AM
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Great info, Brian. The A series has always held the charm....

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Old 08-21-2017, 12:00 PM
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Great info, Brian. The A series has always held the charm.....
Don't forget about the 16 cards in the B series that are repeats (with same player designation on front) of the A series.

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I'd love to have another Matty.

Beautiful set; loads of variation and incredible color.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:32 PM
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Not a set I collect, but this is some neat work, Brian. Cool to see that they are not as generic as once thought.
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:58 PM
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Very interesting. I didn't know that so many of the images actually look like the player they are supposed to represent. The Plank, Waddell, Bresnahan, Murphy, Donlin, Evers and Collins are particularly obvious. As a (mainly) Red Sox collector, my only examples are from the C series. As these are the reused images, not my favorite set, but still not bad looking cards. Thanks for the info.

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Old 08-26-2017, 09:14 PM
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I scanned so many cards and pilfered way too many internet images to let this thread die...so I disguised the ever unpopular E91 focus in the title.

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I have never been a fan of the E91 cards.

To be honest, however, after initially being so turned off by the anonymity of the players' faces, your thread has forced me to take a second look.

I still am not a fan, but my blanket contempt for the set is broken up slightly when I see cards like the Waddell...I still won't buy one though, they're just not quite as bad as I had assumed they were.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

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+1 for the Nails reference in the title.
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Awesome work Brian. I always thought the A series actually did look like the players that were named on the cards and the B and C series were the generic sets that just use the same images. But seeing the other cards posted next to them just makes the A series cards that much cooler imo.

Thanks for posting this.

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Thanks Andy, Raymond, Daniel, Ed and Andrew for posting your thoughts about E91...these cards certainly have been misunderstood for a long time. And I always like to remind folks that almost half (sixteen) of the 'B' series cards are just as valid as the 'A' series that I illustrated with the scans, as these 16 cards are duplicated in the B series with the same image AND player designation as seen in the A series.

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My final tricky re-titling has occurred to squeeze out a few more views. My apologies to all who already suffered E91 pains on previous visits.

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I just now viewed this thread.
Masterful, passionate work Brian.
if I was Opie Taylor right now; would wanna get the red paint and become blood brothers.
Nicely done and oh, so helpful; to foster interest in an underappreciated set.

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Masterful, passionate work Brian.
if I was Opie Taylor right now; would wanna get the red paint and become blood brothers.
Nicely done and oh, so helpful; to foster interest in an underappreciated set.
+1. And these are super tough in anything over EX condition.....

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These are the ones that I do not have a photo match, but I believe are accurate representations of the player's face. The Chance and Overall E91 cards are profile shots, so I do not have a very good match, although I think the Overall seems to share facial traits. Long ago I have actually seen the exact action photo of Reulbach that was used, and on this card they duplicated the body. The Chance...well, what can you do.

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As I put the finishing touches on the E91 file, for my son (Hobby/Business partner); has anyone come across any more pic comps for Chance? I was just gonna let it go but this group is definitely the place to ask the question.
Thank you in advance. Thank you Brian and all; you sure make me look good to the kid, lol.
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Congratulations Brian,

This is the first time I've ever looked at the E91 cards as anything else but poor caricatures of the players.

I'm still not interested in the set, but at least now I am beginning to have a little more acceptance of the cards.

Edited to add that I didn't realize that this was initially posted in 2017. It was worth bringing it back for a second look, because I missed it the first time around.
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Congratulations Brian,

This is the first time I've ever looked at the E91 cards as anything else but poor caricatures of the players.

I'm still not interested in the set, but at least now I am beginning to have a little more acceptance of the cards.

Edited to add that I didn't realize that this was initially posted in 2017. It was worth bringing it back for a second look, because I missed it the first time around.
It is still alive Fred; still some unsolved questions, pics for comparison, etc. I just posted again (above) on Chance; it musta brought the thread out of the mothballs, lol.
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Congratulations Brian,

This is the first time I've ever looked at the E91 cards as anything else but poor caricatures of the players.

I'm still not interested in the set, but at least now I am beginning to have a little more acceptance of the cards.

Edited to add that I didn't realize that this was initially posted in 2017. It was worth bringing it back for a second look, because I missed it the first time around.
Thanks Fred, and thanks again Ben. I believe I originally left off E91 from the thread title (and stuck T206 in there) because I knew that most collectors would glaze their eyes right past it at the mere sight of 'E91'. The cards are not my favorite, but they deserve to be viewed without that tough to shake 'generic' label...almost half of the 99 cards are not!

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