What mgrs/exec's/umps would you consider future HOFers?

[mcadams]

Of current and recent managers, here are my thoughts:
Joe Torre and Bobby Cox should both get in on their 1st shot on the ballott. Both are legends of the modern era and are considered irreplaceble by their respective ballclubs. No brainers. After those two, I think LaRussa should get in as well and I'd even throw Lou Piniella in the mix. Lastly, I think Mike Scioscia will win at least more championship before he's done and will be in consideration one day.

[Fred]

To me Torre gets in based on the number of WS rings but come on now, you could have probably put just about any manager in that place and won those WS titles. Take away Torre's Yankee tenure and you have an average manager. Torre, without a doubt, will be remembered as an old school class act. I suppose you could put him in the HOF for making it through 12 years in the Yankee organization with George Steinbrenner. Torre certainly gets my vote into Cooperstown based on his lifetime acheivements in the game - lets not forget that as a player he was a 9x All Star with an MVP to his accomplishments.

[prewarsports]

I think Nicholas Young, John Brush and Frank Navin should be in from the earlier era of executives/owners. They will probably never make it and that is not a big deal. I HATE Steinbrenner and will shield my eyes when visiting Cooperstown so as not to look directly into the face of evil when he makes it in eventually!

I think Cy Rigler should absolutely be in as an umpire

Managers, I am ok with Torre and LaRussa and Bobby Cox. I always liked Lou Pinella but he is probably a longshot.

Rhys

[Brian Van Horn]

Danny Murtaugh stacks up favorably with a number of Hall of Fame managers:

[aljurgela]

Buck O'neil should get in as "overall contribution to the game" as he was a good (not great) player and a coach and then worked for years on behalf of the NL HOF and HOF... a real class act that everybody loved and that baseball is "better for" having had in the game...

[A2000]

Marvin Miller should be in the Hall of Fame.

Larussa, Cox and Torre (3rd, 4th and 5th all time in wins respectively) will all get into the Hall because every manager in the top 11 are already enshrined.

I don't see Terry Francona getting serious consideration for the Hall of Fame in the near future as he's ranked 60th right now.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by A2000

Marvin Miller should be in the Hall of Fame.

Larussa, Cox and Torre (3rd, 4th and 5th all time in wins respectively) will all get into the Hall because every manager in the top 11 are already enshrined.

I don't see Terry Francona getting serious consideration for the Hall of Fame in the near future as he's ranked 60th right now.

I mentioned Francona more on potential...He's already got a great foundation with five 95+ win seasons and the two World Series wins. I think the fact that they were for the Red Sox, kinda makes the first one a little more than just a championship... He'll be legendary in Boston forever for being the manager of the '04 team that reversed the curse.. And a bit of that legendary status should bleed out a little into the rest of the baseball loving population due to the historic nature of the supposed curse...***Keep in mind, I'm NOT a Sox fan at all just giving an honest observation***The first manager to break the Cubs curse, or any manager/coach who wins in any major sport for Cleveland will also get this somewhat legendary treatment in my mind...

5-7 more solid years, and I say he's in.. Another pennant or two wouldn't hurt either. BUT 1 more WS win would almost guarantee him enshrinement...If he were to stop managing today, I'd say no though. He just needs to compile at this point.

[packs]

I know he's a pitching coach, but when he's done I think Dave Duncan belongs in the Hall. He's made huge impacts on too many careers to name. It's a unique case.

[steve B]

As much as I hate to admit it, Steinbrenner should be in. He pulled his team out of an eightyear slump as a new owner and built a team amazing for being consistently competetive. And doing that means building an excellent front office staff. How many teams have the funding, but not the smarts to get the right players? And his marketing of the team was also impressive, bringing in concepts like the team owning a primary media outlet. (Turner and others were earlier, but I see them as more media outlets owning a team to use as a product.)

I'd also have to include Charlie Finley. Annoying, with odd but creative ideas- designated runner?- But some stuck for better or worse. Loud uniforms, ball girls... He pushed the DH and other less sucessful ideas. Todays game wouldn't be quite what it is without him. (Plus he had a couple people on the payroll that went on to bigger things- MC Hammer, and the woman who started Mrs. Fields Cookies)


Steve B

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by packs

I know he's a pitching coach, but when he's done I think Dave Duncan belongs in the Hall. He's made huge impacts on too many careers to name. It's a unique case.

How about Leo Mazzone?

Steve