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Old 11-07-2014, 09:03 AM
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What do you think about when someone has a card and is not interested in selling it and another member asks about it but gets no response? I've had this happen a few times, where I knew another member had a card I was looking for. I sent a message asking if they were interested in selling it and they just ignored my query. No response at all. But they keep posting comments on other threads so I know they're around. Seems kind of inconsiderate.
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Old 11-07-2014, 05:32 PM
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What do you think about when someone has a card and is not interested in selling it and another member asks about it but gets no response? I've had this happen a few times, where I knew another member had a card I was looking for. I sent a message asking if they were interested in selling it and they just ignored my query. No response at all. But they keep posting comments on other threads so I know they're around. Seems kind of inconsiderate.
Could be any of a number of things:

--Rudeness. If you are being ignored by another member.
--Missed email. I get a hundred 'legit' spams a day [not counting the offers for fake rolexes and penis pills] from several AH's, TPG's and eBay. I often miss stuff.
--Read and forgot. This happens to me sometimes when I check a PM here on the fly but don't have the chance to respond. It then doesn't 'ping' me when I sign back in.
--Rubbed me the wrong way. Rare, but happens sometimes when a person just can't help but be obnoxious.

So, was the offender me?
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:37 PM
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Personally I find it fascinating that what seemed to me to be a rhetorical question has already gotten 50+ responses.
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Could be any of a number of things:

--Read and forgot. This happens to me sometimes when I check a PM here on the fly but don't have the chance to respond. It then doesn't 'ping' me when I sign back in.

So, was the offender me?
Yeah, that's me too. I've had a guy email me about a T210 a couple times and I forgot to respond both times. I'm not sure he's on here, since it's regular email and he saw it on SGC. And once something is a few hundred emails back I usually don't go looking for it unless it's really important - to me.

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Old 11-08-2014, 09:21 AM
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Could be any of a number of things:

--Rudeness. If you are being ignored by another member.
--Missed email. I get a hundred 'legit' spams a day [not counting the offers for fake rolexes and penis pills] from several AH's, TPG's and eBay. I often miss stuff.
--Read and forgot. This happens to me sometimes when I check a PM here on the fly but don't have the chance to respond. It then doesn't 'ping' me when I sign back in.
--Rubbed me the wrong way. Rare, but happens sometimes when a person just can't help but be obnoxious.

So, was the offender me?
I don't think it was you. I don't remember who it was. I've had it happen a few times.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:58 AM
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Default funny all the extra conditons you place

you assume the buyer is rude and asking for market price...or is trying to get an item from a personal collection..or seller has to sell at market price..i never asked any of those things...

i just talking about the scenerio where a seller is ACTIVELY trying to sell a card..and is upset with an offer from a buyer.....i just dont think the seller can be upset when the buyer is offering market value...if the buyer has the highest offer out there for the period of time that an item typically sells for...and the seller says he will just keep it....im fine with that..

the.seller can do what he wants with the card but he cant argue that the buyer did not offer market value or at the very least , made an offer that you cant consider a 'low ball' when its the highest 'market value' the seller has received and that its not like the seller has an alternative to sell it for more so only responds 'ill just keep it'.

thus i would argue that seller wasnt planning to sell at the going market price..maybe the seller made a mistake as to what the perceived market price....but it is what it is...'ill just keep it' means not willing to sell at market price....
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:19 PM
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A seller may be ACTIVELY trying to sell a card, but it does not mean it's a firesale where he HAS to sell it. Therefore, if he thinks the buyer is still trying to lowball him and the seller believes he can get a better price elsewhere, he'll just do that, and tell the buyer accordingly. It's like the ebay Global Selling Program. Sure, sellers can probably sell more of their stuff if they sold overseas and to Canada. That means more money, and what they should do if they want sell their stuff, right? However, a lot of sellers simply don't want to deal with the hassle and pain that may come with a troubled sale. It's the same thing with sale negotiations. If a seller thinks that this sale is more trouble than it's worth, they'll just say forget it. My time is worth more than this.

And again the seller and buyer may have very real differences in what perceived market value is for an item. A buyer may look at the last sale in that grade. However, the seller may think that listing was listed poorly, the card had poor eye appeal for the grade, etc. There are many different factors involved. In the end, when the seller says to the buyer that he'll just keep the card, he may in essence be telling the buyer, go try to find this card in this condition for the price you are looking for. It's not going to be as easy as you think. At that point, the buyer needs to consider whether it's better to just take his money elsewhere or if the seller does have a point there.
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you assume the buyer is rude and asking for market price...or is trying to get an item from a personal collection..or seller has to sell at market price..i never asked any of those things...

i just talking about the scenerio where a seller is ACTIVELY trying to sell a card..and is upset with an offer from a buyer.....i just dont think the seller can be upset when the buyer is offering market value...if the buyer has the highest offer out there for the period of time that an item typically sells for...and the seller says he will just keep it....im fine with that..

the.seller can do what he wants with the card but he cant argue that the buyer did not offer market value or at the very least , made an offer that you cant consider a 'low ball' when its the highest 'market value' the seller has received and that its not like the seller has an alternative to sell it for more so only responds 'ill just keep it'.

thus i would argue that seller wasnt planning to sell at the going market price..maybe the seller made a mistake as to what the perceived market price....but it is what it is...'ill just keep it' means not willing to sell at market price....
Your conclusion that market price = your price has already been amply discussed elsewhere in this thread and doesn't need a rehash. This latest post, however, assumes a great deal about the seller's mindset and other dealings with other buyers, and is suspect as a result. Remember, when you assume something about me you are likely to make an "ass" out of both "u" and "me".
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Dude, she doesn't love you any more. Deal with it and move on.
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