Post a Stupid Question - Prewar 101

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ramram

When you say "Pre War", which war are you talking about? There's been a bunch of them.

Rob M.

When it comes to vintage bb cards, the term 'Prewar' is commonly known to refer to cards issued before the involvelment of the United States in World War 2. Thus the 1941 Play Ball, 1941 Double Play and 1941 Goudey all make the Prewar cut.

Brian (Great thread Frank)

[Brian Van Horn]

Thank you, Frank.

[pokerplyr80]

Who came up with the letters and numbers to identify prewar sets? M116, t206, e145, etc.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Who came up with the letters and numbers to identify prewar sets? M116, t206, e145, etc.

Jefferson Burdick. What do I win?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Jefferson Burdick. What do I win?

Thanks for the quick response. No cash prize unfortunately.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Who came up with the letters and numbers to identify prewar sets? M116, t206, e145, etc.

David K. posted a great article recently about the man who was the founding father of the ACC system:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=224583

Brian

[brianp-beme]

One of my favorite sayings that I may have been the first in this entire world to coin..."Your stupid question is better than my stupid answer"

Brian

[Snapolit1]

What does a "strong registration" mean? Is that code for a high grade?

[Jobu]

It means that each of the color layers in the printing process is perfectly aligned (aka registered) with every other layer thereby creating a clear, sharp image. The more layers that are out of whack the weaker the registration (and less appealing the image ----- unless the registration is waaaaaaaay off and it moves into the realm of the freaks - this thread needs a card!).

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

What does a "strong registration" mean? Is that code for a high grade?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

What does a "strong registration" mean? Is that code for a high grade?

Registration is a printing term for how accurately an image is reproduced. Poor registration can be fuzzy, color not staying inside an outline, doubling etc... 1958 Topps is notorious for Poor registration, especially the Ted Williams card. If you get one with nice registration it's a coup.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Before our involvement in WW II started what were pre war cards called?

[jmb]

Why is there no 51 Bowman Joe DiMaggio ?

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by jmb

Why is there no 51 Bowman Joe DiMaggio ?

Add to that "Why is there no 1955 Topps Mantle?"

[abroome]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Add to that "Why is there no 1955 Topps Mantle?"

Mantle was under contract with Bowman at the time.

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[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Before our involvement in WW II started what were pre war cards called?

The old joke is 'food'.

Brian

[glchen]

why prewar and not pre-Topps? who started calling cards from this era prewar cards and when?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by glchen

why prewar and not pre-Topps? who started calling cards from this era prewar cards and when?

I used to call them PreWW2 cards, but found that dealers when asked this needed me to clarify what I was looking for. I think the prewar term has been prominent for about twenty years(?).

I believe that because of the virtual stop of baseball card production due to the war, it made a better break. The Pre-Topps term is not bad, except it gets a little messy with the Bowman and Leaf mass produced cards in the years before Topps entered the market.

Brian

[atx840]

Are T206 "errors" getting out of hand

[glchen]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I used to call them PreWW2 cards, but found that dealers when asked this needed me to clarify what I was looking for. I think the prewar term has been prominent for about twenty years(?).

I believe that because of the virtual stop of baseball card production due to the war, it made a better break. The Pre-Topps term is not bad, except it gets a little messy with the Bowman and Leaf mass produced cards in the years before Topps entered the market.

Brian

Thanks! Good to know.

Couldn't help but think of some more questions .... Why do Gem Mint (10) cards have off center backs? Why do so many people on ebay find cards of Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, and Honus Wagner in their attic from their grandfather? Why do these same people not bother to get these cards possibly valued in the thousands graded but are willing to do an unreserved auction starting at 99 cents?

[Cliff Bowman]

I just received an e-mail from a General Shebango in Nigeria, who also says that he is a Prince, in which he tells me that he is in possession of a PSA 11 T206 Doyle NY N.L. with a Drum back that has a ghost image of Joe Jackson sliding into second on the front and evidence of being next to Honus Wagner on the back. He says that he wants me to either wire him $100,000 in US dollars or to give him my bank routing number and account number. Which method would you suggest?

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Before our involvement in WW II started what were pre war cards called?

"Modern shiny stuff"