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07-17-2017, 04:33 PM
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I agree with Peter. Walker was an amazing player, but a non-catcher position player that only has one season in which he played at least 144 games is going to have a hard time getting elected. Walker missed over 700 games in his career for various reasons.
With Helton, his road numbers are just not that great. At home he is Ted Williams, and on the road he is Willie Horton. Without Helton ever having played elsewhere, we will never know exactly where he should fall on the list. He could get in, but somehow I doubt it. I think the Rockies HOFer is going to be someone that puts up all-star caliber numbers on the road. Nolan Arenado?
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07-17-2017, 06:05 PM
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Yeah, with a quick look, I noticed the difference between Helton and Walkers Home/Road splits were nearly identical with each other.
Walker however did spend his first 5 full seasons playing in Montreal, so I don't know how much it skews things for him on his overall lifetime splits. It does seem odd that two guys with lifetime OPS rates of around .950 who had no allegations of steroid use, will likely not sniff the HOF. That's a career season for most star caliber players, let alone a career. Last edited by D. Bergin; 07-17-2017 at 10:34 PM.
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07-17-2017, 08:40 PM
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Great Discussion, Guys! Just what I was looking for.
Now for the Pitching question: Pretend you are the agent for a very high draft pick just chosen by Colorado. Do you have him play for the St. Paul Saints for a year ala J.D. Drew? or... Pretend you are the agent for one of the best pitchers in Baseball who just became a free agent and Colorado is offering BY FAR the best deal. Do you remind your client of Mike Hampton, etc. or tell him you will take half your normal fee if he signs elsewhere? .
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07-17-2017, 09:05 PM
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Pitchers are such a crap shoot in the draft.
I would almost draft bats, and chase arms in FA. At least then they would have gotten TJ surgery out of the way, or they have held up and won't need it. SP If I'm the Rockies, I want ground ball specialists and off speed masters. Those 95 mph fastballs will eventually get hit and go a long ways. RP I want heaters in my pen though. That fast ball is going to be nasty after facing those SP.
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07-18-2017, 02:34 AM
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I think Walker gets in. Maybe not on a ballot, but he will be one of the first Vet committee guys put in. He was too good for too long and the best Rockie probably ever.
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