Darren's Rovell take on PWCC, etc.

Rhotchkiss · #1 07-27-2019, 07:44 AM

Yes, but the shock and awe caught your attention and prompted you to pass the article on. That�s the goal right now: get this thing out there, and then the facts will speak for themselves- the facts do not bode well for psa and pwcc. Yes, it�s a bit inflammatory and sensational, but not incorrect (as far as we know). Indeed, compared to crap I hear and read on Fox News AND CNN, this article was relatively even-handed by today�s standards (unfortunately).

Keep writing, Darren Rovell!

Just.Rachel · #2 07-27-2019, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Yes, but the shock and awe caught your attention and prompted you to pass the article on. That�s the goal right now: get this thing out there, and then the facts will speak for themselves- the facts do not bode well for psa and pwcc.

Indeed, the article did grab me, even though I was already aware of most of the content. In that, he succeeded.

I have another question though. Maybe you all could enlighten me. Let me preface my queery by saying that again, I'm small potatoes in the hobby, buy and sell a bit here and there but generally not for profit.

I'm getting the impression that most people think getting this scandal out in the open and relentless publicity about all of this is somehow good for the hobby. I don't quite understand that. I would think that scandals of this sort would drive people away, not pull them in. I keep seeing people say they're done for a while, maybe forever, and I don't see anyone saying they're suddenly going to start collecting now.

I get the need for this to be handled, and I also get that a certain amount of publicity is necessary to help collect information and evidence, but wouldn't it be better for the hobby in general if this mess could all be sorted out as covertly as possible? Wouldn't there likely be more total hobbyists next year if the scambags responsible for this fiasco could be dealt with outside of a national spotlight?

Haven't card sales been hurt since this started? Is that a good thing?

I'm not trying to be difficult here, and I completely applaud everyone involved in seeking justice and weeding out corruption. I just would've rather it be done without discrediting the hobby as a whole. Maybe that just wasn't possible, given the scope of what has happened, but idk.

Okay that was wayyyyy longer than I wanted it to be.

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Rhotchkiss · #3 07-27-2019, 09:07 AM

Personally, I would rather see a cleaner hobby with less people than a more popular hobby, but dirtier hobby.

What I want here is what I call "short to pain for long term gain". Yes, in the short term we will lose collectors and card prices may go down. The industry will need corrections, many of them in many ways. But I think if that happens, the industry will emerge stronger and cleaner, and the collectors and card values will come back, perhaps stronger than ever. And I think that process starts with public shaming and hopefully ends with the punishment of those who have wronged. There needs to be a deterrent here; awareness is not just enough. Some people need to bankrupt and be jailed. Other companies need to fundamentally change their ways -- like kicking out a whole submission when 20%+ of it found authentic, not charging on card value, or, better, spending more time (enough time) on the higher value cards - if a card costs $1000 to grade, you should get more time and better eyes on it than a card that costs $5 to grade. I have a many other ideas, but I will spare you all.

Bottom line, its better to fix things now and go through pains, then kick it on down the line and feel bigger pains later. And fixing things now is significantly advanced by press coverage, especially negative coverage towards those who are responsible for all this.

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