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I think the best way to detect trimming is to check the name of the submitter.
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Can we settle for less than full automated grading? How about automated size determination, edge evenness, black light alterations, et all (surface wrinkles?). These would be easy to implement with a simple high res scan and some programming. The intent of the analysis is to weed out obvious bad/altered cards, not to grade them. Cards would fall into 3 categories: Pass, Fail (altered), more review needed. Fails are rejected and the other 2 go through the same process as before for actual grading.
Heck, based on how many trimmed cards are getting through, if they were to implement this, it would easily cut PSA's return time in half. ![]() |
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And what about factory cut cards that are smaller? |
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Lots of banter about technology...
But a very low-tech ruler, magnifying glass, and blacklight would have been enough to detect the vast majority of altered cards that have gotten through (thousands). PSA either does not take the time to use these simple tools, or something else is going on. Sure, some alterations are tougher to detect, but there are bigger issues at play. Perhaps they should be looking at who is submitting the cards, and the other cards within the submission. That would be a good low-tech starting point. Then down the line, perhaps improved technology can be looked at. But will PSA really invest heavily in that? Doubtful... If that's the future, it's going to take a new player to step in. Last edited by perezfan; 10-23-2019 at 11:17 AM. |
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That thousands of alterations have been identified, and are continuing to be identified, by collectors hundreds of miles away from the physical cards says a lot. They've identified ways to identify alterations that are not being used by grading companies. Their methods include looking at images, and provenance. These methods will continue to be used, whether or not grading cards use them and, no doubt, sometimes try to hide provenance.
Thus, grading is done not just by the grading companies but by the hobby. Hive mind, some might call it. If graders can't or won't identify alterations, others will be doing it for them publicly. Of course, part of it is that buyers have to quit being dumbasses, and use some old fashioned common sense, which might be a far bridge to cross ![]() Last edited by drcy; 10-23-2019 at 11:29 AM. |
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To me we at this point I’m way beyond thinking PSA is this bad at determining wether a card is altered or not
All the technology in the world isn’t going to stop a insider from being influenced, bribed, and or paid off ect.... Last edited by Johnny630; 10-23-2019 at 11:59 AM. |
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true this! add to this point the apathy of most collectors and this is a recipe for no change!
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![]() Never going to happen because that would be way too easy. They want to silence the narrative and do nothing. That makes them complicit to the crime, IMHO. |
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