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Old 12-16-2019, 07:00 PM
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Just had a card purchased of mine from eBay by one of the alleged trimmers. He has purchased from me in the past, always nicely centered PSA 7's. The card was recently graded. I guess he must just have a great eye for bumps.

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Old 12-16-2019, 07:23 PM
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Just had a card purchased of mine from eBay by one of the alleged trimmers. He has purchased from me in the past, always nicely centered PSA 7's. The card was recently graded. I guess he must just have a great eye for bumps.
Please tell us what card it is and post a picture, so we can watch out for it. If if shows up down the road in a higher flip and altered, we have good evidence of doctoring and cause to give to BODA who can turn over to authorities.
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:08 PM
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Just had a card purchased of mine from eBay by one of the alleged trimmers. He has purchased from me in the past, always nicely centered PSA 7's. The card was recently graded. I guess he must just have a great eye for bumps.
I love how people are happy to come on here and talk or complain about some eBay buyer or seller who did this or that, but do not disclose who that eBay buyer/seller is. In this case, Bbek is telling the board that a known card doctor bought his card, but discloses neither the buyer/doctor nor the card.

Bbek- your post is useless, and your failure to disclose the buyer or at least the card is tantamount to participating in card doctoring.

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Old 12-17-2019, 08:15 PM
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I love how people are happy to come on here and talk or complain about some eBay buyer or seller who did this or that, but do not disclose who that eBay buyer/seller is. In this case, Bbek is telling the board that a known card doctor bought his card, but discloses neither the buyer/doctor not the card.

Bbek- your post is useless, and your failure to disclose the buyer or at least the card is tantamount to participating in card doctoring.

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Maybe it is someone who outing will get you attacked on this forum, it's not like that doesn't happen.
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:22 PM
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If someone on this forum is a known card doctor, I think others on this forum should know. We should be helping each other out and protecting the hobby - not hiding the crooks and contributing to the cesspool
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:53 PM
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I love how people are happy to come on here and talk or complain about some eBay buyer or seller who did this or that, but do not disclose who that eBay buyer/seller is. In this case, Bbek is telling the board that a known card doctor bought his card, but discloses neither the buyer/doctor nor the card.

Bbek- your post is useless, and your failure to disclose the buyer or at least the card is tantamount to participating in card doctoring.

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Ryan,

You realize that user hasn’t been on the site for 24 hours, right? Perhaps give him a little time before suggesting he is participating in card doctoring.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:28 PM
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I love how people are happy to come on here and talk or complain about some eBay buyer or seller who did this or that, but do not disclose who that eBay buyer/seller is. In this case, Bbek is telling the board that a known card doctor bought his card, but discloses neither the buyer/doctor nor the card.

Bbek- your post is useless, and your failure to disclose the buyer or at least the card is tantamount to participating in card doctoring.

Ryan Hotchkiss
I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.

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Old 12-18-2019, 03:19 AM
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I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.
all well and good; you two can spat, it'll be fun to watch... but I'd still like to know the card and/or ebay user
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:45 AM
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And will you be blocking that eBay user from bidding on your cards going forward?
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:48 AM
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I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.
Ok, my bad that I did not give you time to respond, and thus prematurely jumped to conclusions. I apologize. But I, and I assume many on this board, would appreciate if you at least disclosed the card that was purchased by the doctor and the name of the card doctor (per my initial post), so that the community is aware that card could pop up later altered. I see no reason not to do this, especially if you know it was purchased by doctor. Regardless of whether you hate me.

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Old 12-18-2019, 05:04 AM
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Just a general question about card trimming. I can understand how it can happen to the older cards. But how in the hell can trimming on a modern card not be detected, especially by professional TPG's ? Isn't the quality control on modern cards such that they are all exactly the same size ?
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:59 AM
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Yes, Id love to see the info on the Doctor !!!
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:47 AM
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Yes, Id love to see the info on the Doctor !!!
Besides the sports card radio and blowout is there a list of known card doctors from over the years ? If anyone could pm that I’d appreciate it.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:39 PM
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Just a general question about card trimming. I can understand how it can happen to the older cards. But how in the hell can trimming on a modern card not be detected, especially by professional TPG's ? Isn't the quality control on modern cards such that they are all exactly the same size ?
They're a lot more accurate than they were. Many are actually die cut, so the card could be small or large, but all examples of the same card should be the same size.

BUT, and this is a big point.
Not all cards are die cut. And not all cards are even cut the same way on every side. Some Gypsy queen cards are a combination of die cut and knife cut.
I doubt any TPG even knows that, and have even less belief that they would check even if they knew.
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Here's Johnny (Bench) on a $11K+ windfall......

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Old 12-18-2019, 10:27 AM
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Ok, my bad that I did not give you time to respond, and thus prematurely jumped to conclusions. I apologize. But I, and I assume many on this board, would appreciate if you at least disclosed the card that was purchased by the doctor and the name of the card doctor (per my initial post), so that the community is aware that card could pop up later altered. I see no reason not to do this, especially if you know it was purchased by doctor. Regardless of whether you hate me.
You have been PM'd and the ebayer has been blocked.
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