Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

bbeck · #1 12-17-2019, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I love how people are happy to come on here and talk or complain about some eBay buyer or seller who did this or that, but do not disclose who that eBay buyer/seller is. In this case, Bbek is telling the board that a known card doctor bought his card, but discloses neither the buyer/doctor nor the card.

Bbek- your post is useless, and your failure to disclose the buyer or at least the card is tantamount to participating in card doctoring.

Ryan Hotchkiss

I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.

phikappapsi · #2 12-18-2019, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bbeck

I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.

all well and good; you two can spat, it'll be fun to watch... but I'd still like to know the card and/or ebay user

judsonhamlin · #3 12-18-2019, 05:45 AM

And will you be blocking that eBay user from bidding on your cards going forward?

Rhotchkiss · #4 12-18-2019, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbeck

I have attempted to forward the information to the party that actually has done the majority of the work in uncovering the current information. No, not you, but a different board altogether. I have no idea who you are but you obviously have some distorted thinking. I wanted to make the point that an individual who has been accused multiple times by this board is still actively buying. I assume he could care less about the accusations being made. Maybe they are attempting to bump the card or maybe something worse, I have no idea. You think that disclosing this one card to the individual who follows these cards religiously, but not you, is tantamount to being a card doctor and is useless? Think before you post and attempt to disparage someone publicly. They may actually be doing more good for the hobby than you and your egotistical, pompous innuendos. I apologize if I did not reply fast enough to your liking, I don't spend every waking hour on the board as if my life depends on it.

Ok, my bad that I did not give you time to respond, and thus prematurely jumped to conclusions. I apologize. But I, and I assume many on this board, would appreciate if you at least disclosed the card that was purchased by the doctor and the name of the card doctor (per my initial post), so that the community is aware that card could pop up later altered. I see no reason not to do this, especially if you know it was purchased by doctor. Regardless of whether you hate me.

jwilly · #5 12-18-2019, 06:04 AM

Just a general question about card trimming. I can understand how it can happen to the older cards. But how in the hell can trimming on a modern card not be detected, especially by professional TPG's ? Isn't the quality control on modern cards such that they are all exactly the same size ?

ALBB · #6 12-18-2019, 06:59 AM

Yes, Id love to see the info on the Doctor !!!

Johnny630 · #7 12-18-2019, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ALBB

Yes, Id love to see the info on the Doctor !!!

Besides the sports card radio and blowout is there a list of known card doctors from over the years ? If anyone could pm that I�d appreciate it.

steve B · #8 12-18-2019, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilly

Just a general question about card trimming. I can understand how it can happen to the older cards. But how in the hell can trimming on a modern card not be detected, especially by professional TPG's ? Isn't the quality control on modern cards such that they are all exactly the same size ?

They're a lot more accurate than they were. Many are actually die cut, so the card could be small or large, but all examples of the same card should be the same size.

BUT, and this is a big point.
Not all cards are die cut. And not all cards are even cut the same way on every side. Some Gypsy queen cards are a combination of die cut and knife cut.
I doubt any TPG even knows that, and have even less belief that they would check even if they knew.

WhenItWasAHobby · #9 12-19-2019, 03:34 PM

Here's Johnny (Bench) on a $11K+ windfall......

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=6147

perezfan · #10 12-19-2019, 03:50 PM

What a disgraceful waste of money. Not even a rare card.

JeremyW · #11 12-19-2019, 04:05 PM

Just wondering, is it possible to get the Bench card into another PSA holder with a different serial number without cracking the card?

ejharrington · #12 12-19-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Here's Johnny (Bench) on a $11K+ windfall......

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=6147

I can’t blame PSA on this one. I can’t even tell knowing that’s it’s trimmed.

Fuddjcal · #13 12-19-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ejharrington

I can�t blame PSA on this one. I can�t even tell knowing that�s it�s trimmed.

other than it's an inch short and rattling around the cage.

very nice conservation right there. "Reviews" is my favorite new word

to go along with Pops, flips, and my favorite....the lambsheer. another day another 10 K. People are re -TAr DED

Will the billion dollar fraud actually be tallied up by Boda or not? I'm betting they can do it because if I think it's a billion dollar fraud by my math, it is probably a 2 billion fraud when you take into consideration how long this grift has been going on.

japhi · #14 12-19-2019, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ejharrington

I can�t blame PSA on this one. I can�t even tell knowing that�s it�s trimmed.

Fair, but of the cards look the same how is one a 10 and the other an 8? They either suck at what they do or they are giving favours to submitters like PWCC

bbeck · #15 12-18-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Ok, my bad that I did not give you time to respond, and thus prematurely jumped to conclusions. I apologize. But I, and I assume many on this board, would appreciate if you at least disclosed the card that was purchased by the doctor and the name of the card doctor (per my initial post), so that the community is aware that card could pop up later altered. I see no reason not to do this, especially if you know it was purchased by doctor. Regardless of whether you hate me.

You have been PM'd and the ebayer has been blocked.

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