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Old 11-04-2022, 07:49 AM
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How about Bill Mazeroski. Do you think he was inducted into the Hall of Fame because of a game winning home run to win the 1960 World Series?
I would say without that HR, he's not in.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:20 AM
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I would say without that HR, he's not in.
And shouldn't be in. One shining moment + a solid, albeit not great career does not = HOF.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:05 AM
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And shouldn't be in. One shining moment + a solid, albeit not great career does not = HOF.
I don't disagree. For my money Frank White had a career virtually indistinguishable from Maz's and nobody's talking about Frank White for the HOF. Might be different if he hit a game winning HR in game 7 against the Phillies in 1980.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:28 PM
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I don't disagree. For my money Frank White had a career virtually indistinguishable from Maz's and nobody's talking about Frank White for the HOF. Might be different if he hit a game winning HR in game 7 against the Phillies in 1980.
Mazeroski 10x all star frank white 5x all star. Mazeroski was considered the best of his era in the nl. I’d say Whitaker was considered the best off his era in the Al not frank white. And Whitaker should be in. If Ozzie smith is in without complaint I don’t see mazeroski as such an egregious mistake and for those saying take away that home run but why he did do it why pretend he didn’t.
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:21 AM
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Re: Kelley, just check Wikipedia...sums it up pretty nicely...

"To be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, a player must receive at least 75% of the vote from the Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA) or the Veterans Committee.Kelly was on the BBWAA ballot seven times, never coming close to being elected, and never garnering more than 1.9% of the vote. By year, voting results for Kelly were: 1947 (one vote, 0.6%), 1948 (two votes, 1.7%), 1949 (one vote, 0.7%), 1956 (two votes, 1.0%), 1958 (two votes, 0.8%), 1960 (five votes, 1.9%), and 1962 (two votes, 0.6%). Despite the lack of support from the BBWAA, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1973 by the Veterans Committee.[22] At the time of Kelly's election, the writers' ballot was voted on by approximately 400 writers, while the Veterans Committee had a membership of twelve former players and executives.

The selection of Kelly was controversial, as many felt Kelly was not worthy of enshrinement in the Hall. According to the BBWAA, the Veterans Committee was not selective enough in choosing members.Charges of cronyism were levied against the Veterans Committee.When Kelly was elected, the Veterans Committee included two of his former teammates, Bill Terry and Frankie Frisch, who also shepherded the selections of teammates Jesse Haines in 1970, Dave Bancroft and Chick Hafey in 1971, Ross Youngs in 1972, Jim Bottomley in 1974, and Freddie Lindstrom in 1976. This led to the Veterans Committee having its powers reduced in subsequent years. Baseball historian Bill James, while ranking Kelly as the 65th greatest first baseman of all time, also cites Kelly as "the worst player in the Hall of Fame"
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It's no (1935 Goudey) puzzle that this man was the (line) driving force behind the induction of several not quite as qualified Hall of Famers.

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