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Old 12-13-2024, 12:42 PM
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Any predictions of who may appear on the 2027 ballot?
Buster Posey and Jon Lester are the strongest candidates. In 2026 it is Ryan Braun and Cole Hamels. Jones strongest competition from returning candidates are Carlos Beltan and CC Sabathia if they don't get in this year. I can see two 2 player classes of Jones, Sabathia, Beltran and Posey for 2026 and 2027.
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Buster Posey and Jon Lester are the strongest candidates. In 2026 it is Ryan Braun and Cole Hamels. Jones strongest competition from returning candidates are Carlos Beltan and CC Sabathia if they don't get in this year. I can see two 2 player classes of Jones, Sabathia, Beltran and Posey for 2026 and 2027.
I don't see Lester, Braun or Hamels as HOFers off the top of my head. The other three should make it, and I suppose Jones might get over the top as well especially with not strong competition.
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I don't see Lester, Braun or Hamels as HOFers off the top of my head. The other three should make it, and I suppose Jones might get over the top as well especially with not strong competition.
I think Lester has a stronger Veteran's Committee case (or whatever they're calling it nowadays). We're not going to see another 200-game winner for a while, and has a strong narrative; cancer wipes out half his rookie year, he comes back to win the World Series the following year, then throws a no-hitter the year after, and later was a part of the 2013 team that won after the Boston Marathon bombing, then goes to Chicago and helps them win.
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I think Lester has a stronger Veteran's Committee case (or whatever they're calling it nowadays). We're not going to see another 200-game winner for a while, and has a strong narrative; cancer wipes out half his rookie year, he comes back to win the World Series the following year, then throws a no-hitter the year after, and later was a part of the 2013 team that won after the Boston Marathon bombing, then goes to Chicago and helps them win.
Wainwright also won exactly 200. Not sure he feels like a HOFer to me either, but maybe.
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I don’t think Lester makes it. He’s in the Tim Hudson class for me. Not appreciated enough but also I don’t think HOF worthy.
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I don’t think Lester makes it. He’s in the Tim Hudson class for me. Not appreciated enough but also I don’t think HOF worthy.
A lot of pitchers feel like that to me. David Wells, Frank Tanana, Dennis Martinez, Kevin Brown, Billy Pierce. All with more wins I believe.
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I don’t think Lester makes it. He’s in the Tim Hudson class for me. Not appreciated enough but also I don’t think HOF worthy.
I think if he gets in then it will be his postseason record that pushed him over the edge. But he is more of an Veterans Committee if he gets in but he should at least stick around on the ballot like Buehrle has.
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Buster Posey and Jon Lester are the strongest candidates. In 2026 it is Ryan Braun and Cole Hamels. Jones strongest competition from returning candidates are Carlos Beltan and CC Sabathia if they don't get in this year. I can see two 2 player classes of Jones, Sabathia, Beltran and Posey for 2026 and 2027.
I was thinking more like Luis Tiant and Rick Reuschel, but yeah, I guess Cole Hamels et al. will also be on a 2027 ballot.
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I was thinking more like Luis Tiant and Rick Reuschel, but yeah, I guess Cole Hamels et al. will also be on a 2027 ballot.
Tiant may end up being Thurman Munson and Steve Garvey, just destined not to make it? I think Reuschel has a Bobby Grich problem -- yeah, we see your WAR and it easily qualifies you, but we just don't think you were all that great.
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Tiant may end up being Thurman Munson and Steve Garvey, just destined not to make it? I think Reuschel has a Bobby Grich problem -- yeah, we see your WAR and it easily qualifies you, but we just don't think you were all that great.
The problem is there is nothing besides WAR that says he has a case for HOF. 214 wins, 3.37 ERA = 114 ERA+, 26 shutouts, 2015 Ks, 1.275 WHIP, 5.1 K/9, 3x AS, 0.63 Cy Young shares. That is why he received 2 votes on a ballot with Sutton, Niekro, Kaat and John finishing in the top 10 and Tiant 15th.
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