Pete Rose news?

[D. Bergin]

Guess he's the Commissioner of Baseball now.

...and when I say "he's", I don't mean Rob Manfred.

[ClementeFanOh]

bk400- Interesting for sure. In addition to the obvious roadblock of Rose
repeatedly and knowingly violating "rule #1" and lying about it during the
investigation, there's also the subtext of the "floodgate" argument for anyone
else who is currently banned/shunned from HOF- "Rose got in and I didn't do
anything as serious and long term as he did. I should get in too". I don't
know, I still don't like his chances... Trent King

[rats60]

I agree. I don't think that players, who knew the one thing you didn't do was bet on baseball, are going to vote Pete Rose into the HOF. I think the writers would have, but the HOF changed the rules so the writers wouldn't get the chance.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's sure a weird HOF. All time hit leader? No. All time HR leader? Nope. Top 5 pitcher of all time? Negative.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's sure a weird HOF. All time hit leader? No. All time HR leader? Nope. Top 5 pitcher of all time? Negative.

3rd (or 4th if you count Negro Leaguers) highest career batting average? No.

[clydepepper]

EVERYBODY gets off!

NO RULES=NO STANDARDS!

[JollyElm]

(Didn't read the article itself.)

The strangest part of all of this is how Pete Rose was put into hard-core exile for breaking the rules and betting on baseball...yet everywhere you turn now has the open and widespread promotion/advertising of betting on sports which is completely accepted (and seemingly 'sponsored'?) by the MLB.

[Mark17]

Either Rose deserved the ban or he didn't. The gambling rule and the facts have not changed. To pardon him now, shortly after death, would seem to me to be unusually cruel.

And it would be throwing away a principled judgement.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's sure a weird HOF. All time hit leader? No. All time HR leader? Nope. Top 5 pitcher of all time? Negative.

+1 I could not agree more, sir.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's sure a weird HOF. All time hit leader? No. All time HR leader? Nope. Top 5 pitcher of all time? Negative.

Interesting. What's your take on Lance Armstrong?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bk400

Interesting. What's your take on Lance Armstrong?

Unfortunately I think cheating was or maybe still is endemic in cycling. So, like baseball, you're only punishing a percentage of the cheaters and letting other cheaters acfhieve exalted status -- is that acceptable or fair, I don't know. Seems there is no good solution.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Unfortunately I think cheating was or maybe still is endemic in cycling. So, like baseball, you're only punishing a percentage of the cheaters and letting other cheaters acfhieve exalted status -- is that acceptable or fair, I don't know. Seems there is no good solution.

There may not be a perfect solution. But there are terrible solutions. If you let into the pantheon the cheaters who get caught, it is an immediate race to the bottom for any sport.

[Casey2296]

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Let's be honest, Manfred and MLB have dropped to their knees and grabbed the thighs of gambling with vigor, he and MLB gave up the moral high ground argument as soon as they did that. SMH at the hypocrisy.

Jackson wasn't convicted, although it was a Chicago Kangaroo court so that doesn't mean much. Landis had to do what he did to make a stand against gambling at the time.

Rose was an asshole but he wouldn't be the first one in the Hall.

Jackson should be a no-brainer at this point.

Let's pull Bud Selig and Joe West from the Hall and put those two guys in.