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Old 05-23-2025, 12:19 PM
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Seems like just about everyone is in agreement on this one. How about another question, is it just me or does it seem like if you submit 9 commons from XYZ card set to TPG along with a Babe Ruth from the same set, how many times do the 9 commons come back, a couple higher than expected, a couple lower than expected and most right about where expected. How about the Ruth? From my experience, 99.99% of the time comes back lower than expected. Thus, leading me to believe that the “high-end” card(s) gets scrutinized much more closely than the common cards. Others feel the same way?
THIS is spot-on. They are waaaaaaaay tougher on the star players. The more that's at stake, the harder you'll get screwed on the grade. Guaranteed.
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THIS is spot-on. They are waaaaaaaay tougher on the star players. The more that's at stake, the harder you'll get screwed on the grade. Guaranteed.
This is why when you have a good card a really good one you should go with the higher service level vs sneaking it in budget and trying to get a call for an upcharge.
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THIS is spot-on. They are waaaaaaaay tougher on the star players. The more that's at stake, the harder you'll get screwed on the grade. Guaranteed.
This is completely antithetical to the general consensus of this thread, i.e., that the TPGs are in cahoots with the big AHs and dealers to provide higher grades for their cards. It's the star cards that anybody would want bumped as much as possible due to the incredible market differential
between the grades. So which is it?
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This is completely antithetical to the general consensus of this thread, i.e., that the TPGs are in cahoots with the big AHs and dealers to provide higher grades for their cards. It's the star cards that anybody would want bumped as much as possible due to the incredible market differential
between the grades. So which is it?
Phil said it was a completely different question.

"How about another question,"
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Phil said it was a completely different question.
"How about another question,"
Huh?
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Huh?
The answer to Phil's question has nothing to do with the answer to the OP's question. Phil himself said it was a completely different question. You are drawing a false inconsistency in post 100. Sorry if my prior post was not clear.
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The answer to Phil's question has nothing to do with the answer to the OP's question. Phil himself said it was a completely different question. You are drawing a false inconsistency in post 100. Sorry if my prior post was not clear.

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Just seemed to me that if the big boys were calling the shots on grading in general, they would certainly be calling them on the cards on which they make the most money for themselves and their clients. Where's the inconsistency there?
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