Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

[Knightlax5]

Originally Posted by bk400

Yep for sure. But if you're looking for patience, play in the Central Division.

Fellow life long Mets fan here, you need to relax man and enjoy the season. This team is doing great, one win away from having the best record in baseball and you're acting like the sky is falling. We had the Coupons as an owner who got roped into a ponzi scheme and now we have the richest owner and fan in sports who bought arguably the greatest free agent in baseball history. The back of his baseball card says you can pencil him in for .280 and 30 HR's a year.

You endured seasons of Jason Bay, Rey Ordonez, and Mo Vaughan. Enjoy the time when they're actually good. Every team wins 50 games, every team loses 50 games. Enjoy the ride and know they'll be in contention come October. But most importantly, LFGM!

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

Fellow life long Mets fan here, you need to relax man and enjoy the season. This team is doing great, one win away from having the best record in baseball and you're acting like the sky is falling. We had the Coupons as an owner who got roped into a ponzi scheme and now we have the richest owner and fan in sports who bought arguably the greatest free agent in baseball history. The back of his baseball card says you can pencil him in for .280 and 30 HR's a year.

You endured seasons of Jason Bay, Rey Ordonez, and Mo Vaughan. Enjoy the time when they're actually good. Every team wins 50 games, every team loses 50 games. Enjoy the ride and know they'll be in contention come October. But most importantly, LFGM!

Sage advice. I guess it hurts more when the Mets seem to have a team that can finally win it all again.

[Snapolit1]

Hey, Rey Ordonez wasn't bad.

Hardly a low point of my 50 year Mets fandom. Wouldn't make the top 150.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TllQxxbdPWM

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

Fellow life long Mets fan here, you need to relax man and enjoy the season. This team is doing great, one win away from having the best record in baseball and you're acting like the sky is falling. We had the Coupons as an owner who got roped into a ponzi scheme and now we have the richest owner and fan in sports who bought arguably the greatest free agent in baseball history. The back of his baseball card says you can pencil him in for .280 and 30 HR's a year.

You endured seasons of Jason Bay, Rey Ordonez, and Mo Vaughan. Enjoy the time when they're actually good. Every team wins 50 games, every team loses 50 games. Enjoy the ride and know they'll be in contention come October. But most importantly, LFGM!

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Shockingly, assessments of a 15 year contract after 3 weeks of play proved to be a tad premature.

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

...now we have the richest owner and fan in sports who bought arguably the greatest free agent in baseball history. The back of his baseball card says you can pencil him in for .280 and 30 HR's a year.

You're both missing the point. Yes, Juan Soto is hitting .253 with 13 home runs 43% of the way into the season. That's "alright". What it's NOT though is worth $765 million over fifteen years plus silly perks!

The Mets should trade Soto to the Yankees or whoever and get the albatross of a contract off their backs. And I'm saying this because as a lifelong Yankee hater I'm a Mets fan!

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

You're both missing the point. Yes, Juan Soto is hitting .253 with 13 home runs 43% of the way into the season. That's "alright". What it's NOT though is worth $765 million over fifteen years plus silly perks!

The Mets should trade Soto to the Yankees or whoever and get the albatross of a contract off their backs. And I'm saying this because as a lifelong Yankee hater I'm a Mets fan!

LOL, if the Yankees or anybody else wanted that contract, they would have given him that contract to begin with. Forget now giving assets to inherit that contract. He's on the Mets, until he can no longer play baseball, or money becomes meaningless to the Oligarchs who will own baseball teams over the next 15 years.

Also, you're cherry picking stats. He's starting to close in on his usual .400+ OBP and is on pace for a 6+ WAR season...which is exactly what the Mets paid for.

I'm not going to get into the logistics of giving out a 15 year / 3/4+ Billion dollar contract...but I'm sure the guy who owns the team (and is worth about 20 times more then Hal Steinbrenner), and likely makes more then Soto's full contract in a single year...doesn't really need you to count nickels and cents for him.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Also, you're cherry picking stats. He's starting to close in on his usual .400+ OBP and is on pace for a 6+ WAR season...which is exactly what the Mets paid for.

Cherry picking? No. I didn't bother to go more deeply than his batting average and home run tital. And the newfangled WAR thingie I'm disinclined to check at all.

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I'm not going to get into the logistics of giving out a 15 year / 3/4+ Billion dollar contract...but I'm sure the guy who owns the team (and is worth about 20 times more then Hal Steinbrenner), and likely makes more then Soto's full contract in a single year...doesn't really need you to count nickels and cents for him.

No, he doesn't need me to count for him. In my experience rich men are really good at counting for themselves. That's typically a necessary condition to getting rich.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Cherry picking? No. I didn't bother to go more deeply than his batting average and home run tital. And the newfangled WAR thingie I'm disinclined to check at all.

I'm assuming you consider stats like "Runs" and "On-Base percentage" new-fangled as well? Perhaps if you dug a little deeper than his batting average and home runs, you'd find that Soto has been on base the 4th most of any player in the MLB so far this year, which is translating to a lot of runs, which tend to help teams win games.

But as others have pointed out, its absurd to judge a 15 year contract well before the All-Star break of his 1st year in that contract.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I'm assuming you consider stats like "Runs" and "On-Base percentage" new-fangled as well?

But as others have pointed out, its absurd to judge a 15 year contract well before the All-Star break of his 1st year in that contract.

A record setting contract means I'd expect some record setting numbers (the ones I studied as a kid on the backs of Baseball cards anyway).

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

You're both missing the point. Yes, Juan Soto is hitting .253 with 13 home runs 43% of the way into the season. That's "alright". What it's NOT though is worth $765 million over fifteen years plus silly perks!

The Mets should trade Soto to the Yankees or whoever and get the albatross of a contract off their backs. And I'm saying this because as a lifelong Yankee hater I'm a Mets fan!

And as a Yankee fan, I’m glad to see you lifelong Yankee haters got stuck with Soto and his ridiculous 15-year, $765 million contract.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

And as a Yankee fan, I’m glad to see you lifelong Yankee haters got stuck with Soto and his ridiculous 15-year, $765 million contract.

Yeah it’s been tough. Told one of my kids he can’t go back to college this year and we’re been eating ramen noodles for the last few months. Also haven paid the cable bill in 8 months. And I’ve postponed a lot of dental work I desperately need. I’m furious over what Cohen has hoisted upon me, but what can you do.

[Balticfox]

I typically don't blame anyone but myself for my own overspending.

[Snapolit1]

This is what slays Yankees fans 24/7/365 about the Mets signing Soto . . . . . why they chant "Juan Soto sucks" in games where they aren't even playing the Mets.

THE SIZE OF HIS CONTRACT IS ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS

METS LUXURY TAX "HIT" IN 2025: $79M

In 2024, Forbes Magazine estimated Cohen's fortune at $21.5 billion, ranking him the 30th richest person in the United States.

https://fortune.com/2016/10/22/steve...naire-point72/

https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/12/05/st...-man-sculpture