Dumbasses n the internet

ClementeFanOh · #1 09-09-2025, 06:28 PM

Hi Eric- I find we are usually on the same sheet of music, but not this time.
I watched the video again, in slow motion, and can offer these observations:

1) Most importantly, and concerning the original point of the post, the
internet witch hunt went terribly awry (shock!) and was grossly wrong.
That's awful for the improperly accused woman.

2) I've seen countless scrambles too. You are correct in that the father wasn't violent; instead, he was a sneak. This doesn't justify what he did.

3) There were actually 2 people, not one, within crouching distance of
retrieving the ball. They didn't get the chance, despite easily being closest
to it and clearly making an effort to track it. Hard to judge by video of
course, I'd say the father snuck in from 15 feet away. I mean, was he
hoping the other people had no spines, or did he actually believe his
behavior was proper? Who knows, not good either way...

4) Try this mental exercise. Imagine yourself at the grocery in an aisle. You
look down at the ground for an item on the bottom shelf, and bend
to pick it up. As you do so, you notice a $50 bill on the ground next to you.
Then you see a guy in your peripheral vision, who abandoned his cart 15
away, swoop in and grab the $50 as you are reaching for it. Said guy then
scurries back to his cart, ignoring the fact that you are still crouched
where the bill was, and apparently acting like he has all of a sudden
become invisible. Would you say something to this guy? I would...

5) You called the East Coast behavior thing- I was thinking it, you called it.
Neither party acted well, for sure. I am glad the Phillies stepped up for
the young fan.

Trent King

Beercan collector · #2 09-09-2025, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

4) Try this mental exercise. Imagine yourself at the grocery in an aisle. You
look down at the ground for an item on the bottom shelf, and bend
to pick it up. As you do so, you notice a $50 bill on the ground next to you.
Then you see a guy in your peripheral vision, who abandoned his cart 15
away, swoop in and grab the $50 as you are reaching for it. Said guy then
scurries back to his cart, ignoring the fact that you are still crouched
where the bill was, and apparently acting like he has all of a sudden
become invisible. Would you say something to this guy? I would...

Trent King

Thanks Trent I certainly enjoy the videos you make of card shows , but .. and I’m not super invested in this - If I was in the ladies position I would’ve simply thought “damn too bad Bader didn’t hit it 10 feet farther” -
The grocery thing is completely different, I’m not needing/wanting someone else’s $50 (Believe it or not ) but your right, I certainly would’ve spoke up n said “hey fella let’s find out who’s $50 that is”

jayshum · #3 09-09-2025, 09:21 PM

The guy went past 4 or 5 empty seats to get a home run ball for his son on (or almost on) his birthday. He didn't appear to do anything crazy to get it - no obvious pushing someone out of his way or grabbing it out of someone's hands. I've seen people at games do way worse things to get a ball than this guy did.

Casey2296 · #4 09-09-2025, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum

The guy went past 4 or 5 empty seats to get a home run ball for his son on (or almost on) his birthday. He didn't appear to do anything crazy to get it - no obvious pushing someone out of his way or grabbing it out of someone's hands. I've seen people at games do way worse things to get a ball than this guy did.

+1
I'm not sure how many people, I would hope a majority, upon seeing the man give the ball to a child would have just smiled, waved and walked away. That's not a battle, even if you win, that you will ever win in the court of public opinion.
Just ask the guy who snatched the signed tennis players hat away from a kid.

icurnmedic · #5 09-09-2025, 11:31 PM

I guess we all have different point of views, mine is the guy was well within his rights to gather the ball, she was out of line ,period. Otherwise you are saying no one can get a ball unless it is hit directly to you, with your rump seated, and not even sure you can reach for it.

ClementeFanOh · #6 09-10-2025, 04:53 AM

Thomas (icurnmedic)-

1) The internet rage mob were out of line for misidentifying the woman.

2) The guy was out of line. I get the distinct feeling many of the people
defending his behavior on this site, would not have been happy with him
weaseling past to grab a ball you were going to pick up, then gleefully
pretending to be invisible (and playing the victim) immediately after.

3) The woman was out of line, far too confrontational. It may well be,
however, that she too had someone who would like to own a HR ball
(a grandchild, maybe).

4) In short, bad behavior by all the adults involved. Phillies did the right
thing though. Main lesson is we live in a society that is largely graceless.

Trent King

steve B · #7 09-10-2025, 09:05 AM

I don't think the guy was out of line by much.
Make it a bit different, we've all seen home runs into the stands at poorly attended games. Some even hit into a totally empty section. There's usually a bit of a race to get to it.
So what would you have them do? Maybe utilize the hr distance measurer to determine who was closest and announce things like "guy in the green hoodie was closest, it's his ball"

Baseball is getting silly enough.

Agree about the internet detectives who are wrong this time, and the woman.

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