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12-11-2017, 05:06 PM
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Problem is Mattingly wasn't dominant long enough and Garvey is borderline... HOF can't be based on what ifs...putting either one is may open the door to hall of mediocrity. Neither was a McCovey or a Tony Perez...
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12-11-2017, 06:09 PM
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A few positives for Morris . The decade of the 1980's, he had the most wins 162, next was 140. He was 3rd in k's behind only Nolan Ryan and Valenzuela, He had the most complete games at 133. and we all know his World Series performances and 1 No-Hitter. Hall of Fame ? But he was a great pitcher.
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12-11-2017, 06:27 PM
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With regard to wins as a stat.
Tell me which year this pitcher had more wins. Same pitcher. Same team. Consecutive years. Year 1: Team wins: 99 Pitcher ERA 3.00 Home runs allowed: 13 WHIP: 1.28 FIP: 3.46 Innings: 210 Year 2: Team wins: 103 Pitcher ERA: 2.95 Home runs allowed: 26 WHIP: 1.23 FIP: 4.19 Innings: 238 Did the pitcher have: A lot more wins in year 1? A few more wins in year 1? The same number of wins both years? A few more wins in year 2? A lot more wins in year 2? Explain your answer.
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12-11-2017, 06:53 PM
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i still think there should be a hall of fame within the hall of fame..
like first ballot's versus the other guys
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12-11-2017, 07:31 PM
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Yes, Morris is borderline at best, but you can use statistics to prove just about anything. Just ask my kids why it's statistically in my best interest to pay 25 grand a year for each of them to go to the University of Michigan vs. a college that costs less than half that. 
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12-11-2017, 07:53 PM
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For all the talk of the HOF being watered down, there have been only 222 players (excludes managers, Negro leaguers, and pioneers) out of approximately 19,000 historical MLB players over 148 years, or like 1%, that have made it. To me, that is pretty exclusive.
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12-11-2017, 08:10 PM
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Deserved The Hall
I had the pleasure of covering the Tigers during the careers of Trammell and Morris. Trammell, in my mind, was a Hall of Famer... as was Lou Whitaker, who I think will eventually get in. I'm told that what put Morris over the top Sunday was the fact he was the winningest pitcher of the 1980s and won three World Series rings. I agree that Ted Simmons and Dale Murphy should get in. But my biggest beef with the Hall of Fame is that Marvin Miller hasn't gotten in.
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12-11-2017, 11:01 PM
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12-11-2017, 08:20 PM
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12-11-2017, 09:48 PM
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All Hall of Fames have the same problems. If you compare the top to the rest, the rest don't stand up. In music, you have Elvis , The Beatles and a few others,all the rest are a joke .
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