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Old 05-29-2019, 04:34 PM
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Hahahahaha!!! Now they're trying to redefine shill bidding. If you bid on your OWN FREAKING CARD, it's shill bidding.
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PWCC Betsy Huigens, however, did add, "It is worth mentioning that in our definition, a 'shill bid' is a bid placed in falsehood without intention of being honored. Shill bidding is something we monitor and manage carefully and we don’t have any experience of shill bidding as you describe tied to this person (Moser)."
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:36 PM
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And if PSA wants to have any more of my business, EVERY CARD SUBMITTED BY THESE DOCTORS needs to be removed from the certification system and refunded.
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"A shill bid is a bid placed with no intent to honor "


Wrong again
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:41 PM
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And if PSA wants to have any more of my business, EVERY CARD SUBMITTED BY THESE DOCTORS needs to be removed from the certification system and refunded.
Unfortunately most of the other doctors left little or no paper trail, IMO. BO has named a few guys but it goes well well well beyond them.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:37 PM
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Sports Card Radio was provided data of a recent 225 card PSA submission submitted by, or on the behalf of, Moser.

135 of those cards were placed in the PWCC Marketplace 2019 Premium Auction #3.

An eBay account associated with Moser, whitman111, placed a bid on 31 of the 135 cards submitted, resulting in two winning bids.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:39 PM
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It's like hitting the daily double, winning an altered card that was shill bid.
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Hahahahaha!!! Now they're trying to redefine shill bidding. If you bid on your OWN FREAKING CARD, it's shill bidding.


Yikes.
That is totally unreal. Redefining everything these days.
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Hahahahaha!!! Now they're trying to redefine shill bidding. If you bid on your OWN FREAKING CARD, it's shill bidding.


Yikes.
You can't change the definition of a commonly accepted term to avoid liability; criminal or civil.
"your honor, I define murder as death by shooting. I only stabbed him 47 times."

This is beyond absurd. these people need to stop talking.
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You can't change the definition of a commonly accepted term to avoid liability; criminal or civil.
"your honor, I define murder as death by shooting. I only stabbed him 47 times."

This is beyond absurd. these people need to stop talking.
It's entertaining when they do, though.
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It's entertaining when they do, though.
Let them talk, then the hole gets deeper!
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Let them talk, then the whole gets deeper!
Who on earth is advising them.
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