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How does the Hendrix song go? If 6 was 9 I don't mind I don't mind.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=6028
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Leon, that would be a great thread. It would be even better if there was constructive discussion and the usual angry responders didn’t chime in with the same, obvious drivel that they post time and again (I imagine that for me, half the thread’s responses will be blanked out thanks to my ignore user list).
Anyway, I think it could make for a great thread. Meanwhile, does anyone know how to get ahold of the guy who the made video? If so, can you pm me contact info - I would like to encourage that person to please continue and posting those videos. |
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He just posted on Blowout in the thread. So you can find him there.
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So here's a question for discussion -- what, if anything, are people doing differently in light of the scandal? How are you attempting to protect yourself against altered cards?
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I am passing on my favorite card in the hobby in a 7 holder because of f'd up looking top and bottom borders. As Scott B and I just spoke about at a local card show, KNOW the cards and their characteristics. If it looks short with pointy borders, even if in a TPG holder, pass. SO the lesson is KNOW your cards and its series characteristics. IF you see an E220 with almost no borders, it is trimmed...tpg or not. Same with others. If you see 2 (or more) short borders and especially if they are pointy cornered cards....run away and fast.
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That's a good question. One thing I am thinking on is provenance. Most of my slabs are self-submitted cards and I am preserving the records of those submissions for future resale. Art is often tracked through its owners, so why not top cards? We already have provenance of specific finds on flips (e.g., Black Swamp, Lionel Carter, etc.). That should be more common. If I know the submitter as trustworthy, that should provide a great deal of confidence.
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My own system (for PSA cards anyhow) makes me wonder if it's even worth it, it's such a PITA.
1. If offered by certain sellers, stop right there. 2. If serial number on PSA website shows first sale by certain sellers, stop right there. 3. Review scan thoroughly and if any doubt, pass. 4. If significant card, ask a couple of people whose opinions I value. 5. If still in the game at that point, check my spreadsheet of outed cards to see if in range suggesting it's likely from the same sub. If yes, probably stop or at least look into surrounding certs for anything suspicious. 6. Even if not in range of any outed card, if significant card, check surrounding certs for anything suspicious. Ridiculous it's come to this.
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 11-24-2019 at 12:40 PM. |
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I’ve been saying this for over a year now.....It’s much better for me to be card/slabbed card less then cash less. I could care less if I missed any upside....My personal opinion is everything is priced in and topped out if I miss it so be it I do not like this market’s current state one bit.....it’s much better to have cash on the sidelines then any slabs.
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Buying raw, low grade. Doing my own research on provenance. Since May have stopped buying graded cards, except low grade and low value, unless there is collection provenance. Won’t collect based on TPG card grade again until someone builds a better mousetrap, including transparency and traceability.
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Please keep the videos coming if at all possible. There is so much more to expose. Just today, a large batch of new altered PSA high-numbered examples were outed on Blowout... and this isn't slowing down anytime soon. Still just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks again for the great work being done by the people on Blowout, and by yourself! |
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Thank you very much!!
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LOL that's a big slice.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...2&postcount=86 Keep denying, Orlando and Sloan.
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 11-23-2019 at 11:36 AM. |
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The uglier altered version sold for 42 X the price of the original. ![]() |
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Wow Agree Mark !! These guys, the cutters, look for oversized cards to Slice and Dice. |
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Ryan Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 11-23-2019 at 11:47 AM. |
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Much appreciate the style and content of your videos. THANKS! |
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I love your videos, Keith. You get directly to the point and I find them very easy to follow.
I will send you a PM later today. |
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Keith respectfully is there anyway and or interest in setting up at all the major card shows across this great country with these videos and the blowout discoveries threads posted on large computer screens above said table/booth ?
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Nice Keith, glad to see we both are looking out for the hobby..
maraca cards... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-23-2019 at 03:21 PM. |
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An absolutely incredible job! It is amazing the time and effort you put into this and I believe this will be very helpful to many people. Thank you very much!
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Great job on the video!
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