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Old 07-07-2021, 02:12 PM
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I've been doing this for decades and I've had a pretty good education but particularly with cards in a slab where I can't examine the edges there is NFW I can be absolutely sure that 100 percent of my cards are completely original. Sorry but I am skeptical of anyone who claims they can, and no disrespect intended.
It's not even specific to cards, I just wouldn't trust anyone who claims to be "100% certain" of anything.
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It's not even specific to cards, I just wouldn't trust anyone who claims to be "100% certain" of anything.
Are you 100% certain you wouldn't trust them?
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It's not even specific to cards, I just wouldn't trust anyone who claims to be "100% certain" of anything.
I'm 100% certain Britney Spears won't show up at my house tonight for dinner.
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When I started this thread I was fairly certain it would not end up mentioning Brittney Spears, but you never know, do you?
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I collect the card, and not the holder (I collect low grade cards and snap the slabs 100% of the time, unless the card is remaining in my trade bait box), but I think we all have altered cards. It's hard to have a lot of cards and not end up with a significant number of altered cards, altering has been common for decades. I have many I know are trimmed, recolored etc., but I'm positive I have many more I don't realize are altered. However, I personally don't really care, and remain confident I am correctly identifying that they are original authentic cards, if not able to detect all microtrimming or other alterations (I really don't check carefully for it, because I don't care much). My cards have round corners, creases, bites, holes, missing pieces, tape stains, trimming, recoloring, probably rebuilt corners and a whole lot more. None of that ruins them for me, my card isn't mint, if some one micro-trimmed an edge, that's just another type of damage.

If/when it gets to the point where I am no longer positive I am correctly identifying an authentic card, that's where I have a problem.
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I collect the card, and not the holder (I collect low grade cards and snap the slabs 100% of the time, unless the card is remaining in my trade bait box), but I think we all have altered cards. It's hard to have a lot of cards and not end up with a significant number of altered cards, altering has been common for decades. I have many I know are trimmed, recolored etc., but I'm positive I have many more I don't realize are altered. However, I personally don't really care, and remain confident I am correctly identifying that they are original authentic cards, if not able to detect all microtrimming or other alterations (I really don't check carefully for it, because I don't care much). My cards have round corners, creases, bites, holes, missing pieces, tape stains, trimming, recoloring, probably rebuilt corners and a whole lot more. None of that ruins them for me, my card isn't mint, if some one micro-trimmed an edge, that's just another type of damage.

If/when it gets to the point where I am no longer positive I am correctly identifying an authentic card, that's where I have a problem.
I don’t look at micro trimming as you say just another type of damage. I look at it as a Alteration.
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I don’t look at micro trimming as you say just another type of damage. I look at it as a Alteration.
I agree it's an alteration. It's also a kind of damage.
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I agree it's an alteration. It's also a kind of damage.
I suppose, but John and I are of a generation of collectors to whom alteration is horrifying so it's of a different quality.
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...if some one micro-trimmed an edge, that's just another type of damage...
The type done purposefully, with the intent of deceiving and defrauding an unsuspecting buyer.
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The type done purposefully, with the intent of deceiving and defrauding an unsuspecting buyer.
See #50.
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See #50.
I've read the entire thread. We have a difference of opinion.
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