Show...me...your print variations!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Sometime back some blue 58 Aarons turned up and sold for high dollars as missing color variants, but some of our printing slouths. Ben and Steve I think, demonstrated that blue turns to green after a lot of sun or light exposure.I think Ben posted results of some experiments he ran.

Here are my Mays and Aaron. Fortunately I got my Aaron after the market imploded on them. The amount of blue varies depending on exposure. Some Aarons are much bluer than mine.

You can also see yellow goes white

I'm going to say that was all Ben, who has really studied and experimented with the fading. A missing color is possible, but considering how easily they can be made from normal cards I'd have to consider any missing yellow to be very suspect.

The Mays is a really strange one, having a different color back. I'd have to experiment a bit to see how to make that happen with chemicals, as I don't think it's fading.

[JollyElm]

Everyone needs to remember that 'savedfrommyspokes' Larry is the dream killer!!! When you've discovered an incredibly, historically new variation, he turns your life into a nightmare as he proves it to be nothing more than a fanciful daydream. And I should know, because like others, my head is a trophy mounted on his wall.

(Great guy, though!! )

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Everyone needs to remember that 'savedfrommyspokes' Larry is the dream killer!!! When you've discovered an incredibly, historically new variation, he turns your life into a nightmare as he proves it to be nothing more than a fanciful daydream. And I should know, because like others, my head is a trophy mounted on his wall.

(Great guy, though!! )

The irony of this is that my head is right next to Darren's on my own wall.....within a few weeks of each other, we both had picked up these historic 71 WL cards from the same source. After getting my 71s and thinking back to all of Ben's sun tests on cards, I tried it on a 71 myself....

As Darren's collectorisms list grows seemingly daily, I may have missed it, but I am quite sure there should be a term for this scenario if there is not already.

[butchie_t]

Sunny Strays comes to mind. But I don’t have the pizzazz that Darren has with these creations.

[JollyElm]

103. Rays of Might
Asking whether a card is a ‘missing ink’ variation or just a card affected by overexposure to sunlight.

See also: Sunblather - trying to convince someone that an obviously sun-bleached card is a rare, missing ink variation.

See also: Fraudosynthesis - leaving a card out in the sun for a long time, and then attempting to convert the inevitable color fading into the energy of big-time dollar signs by calling it a ‘missing ink’ variation.

See also: Sunspurn - not buying the bogus story being sold to you about a 'missing ink' card.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Missing the "I" in the "1961 BATTING LEADERS" line.

This recurring back obscuration can be found in varying degrees in size.

[ejstel]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

103. Rays of Might

Asking whether a card is a ‘missing ink’ variation or just a card affected by overexposure to sunlight.



See also: Sunblather - trying to convince someone that an obviously sun-bleached card is a rare, missing ink variation.



See also: Fraudosynthesis - leaving a card out in the sun for a long time, and then attempting to convert the inevitable color fading into the energy of big-time dollar signs by calling it a ‘missing ink’ variation.



See also: Sunspurn - not buying the bogus story being sold to you about a 'missing ink' card.

I am not ready to see the light (pun intended) of salvation!...that Baylor is soooo dark.

I just can't accept that cheap Topps printers never ran out of yellow....even with all the stuff we've seen in this thread...never no yellow? Whoever sold yellow ink to Topps (always stocked up)...lived in a big house on a hill.

Butch...leave that Stroud in the sun!

Ed



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[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by ejstel

I am not ready to see the light (pun intended) of salvation!...that Baylor is soooo dark.

I just can't accept that cheap Topps printers never ran out of yellow....even with all the stuff we've seen in this thread...never no yellow? Whoever sold yellow ink to Topps (always stocked up)...lived in a big house on a hill.

Butch...leave that Stroud in the sun!

Ed

Oh, I wasn't responding to you, just to Larry who wondered if I have 'Collectorisms' for these types of things.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ejstel

I am not ready to see the light (pun intended) of salvation!...that Baylor is soooo dark.

I just can't accept that cheap Topps printers never ran out of yellow....even with all the stuff we've seen in this thread...never no yellow? Whoever sold yellow ink to Topps (always stocked up)...lived in a big house on a hill.

Butch...leave that Stroud in the sun!

Ed



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Please look at this from a different perspective. By your reasoning that some aloof worker allowed the yellow run to happen with no yellow ink, then there should be multiple other cards from this sheet that would normally have either green or yellow letters but due to the missing yellow would then have either blue lettering or white lettering instead.

In my 40+ years of collecting, I have not come across, either personally or seen through forums such as this, other cards from this sheet missing their yellow run. Not to say they have not been out there for years, and just not uncovered. However, logic would dictate that sometime over the past 51 years some astute collector would have pointed these yellow-less cards out to the rest of the hobby...as far as I know, they have not.

Bottom line is if the Baker is legit, there should be other yellow-less cards out there.

Now, watch in the next month or so, they'll be a plethora of yellow-less 71s pop out of the woodwork (after 51 years of not being discovered).

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ejstel

Butch...leave that Stroud in the sun!

Ed

Ed, No way dude!