Cobb/Cobb card in Goodwin Auction

[onlychild]

As for the auction, I'm not saying that it wasn't legit. I'm also not saying that if it wasn't legit that Goodwin was at fault. I just would say that the price was a joke because a) it has no gloss (which to me is a problem, not a positive); the bleeding issue is weird; c) the left corner issue is weird; d) the registration of the card is weird. I'm no expert on Cobb/Cobb but these issues are troubling and I've never seen issues b) and c) on any Cobb/Cobb before. These are red flags to me and surely should not cause the price of the card to triple in value. The card very well may be real but, again, the red flags are troubling

Exactly!

The large scan just raises more question in my mind; such as why do the corners (other than the paper loss) on the front and back seem whiter than the card and why all the stray fibers? Could be my eyes but when the super-large scan is enlarged even more it becomes evident...IMO.

Guess these are questions I would ask or at least throw out before I spent over $100K (or less) on a card. Perhaps the buyer did just that, I don't know. Like Leon said, second or even third opinions. I think for $100K I would fly down with someone to look at it....but that's just me.

Yes, the card may very well be real and I know very little about the Cobb/Cobb but there appears to be red flags when compared to others. At least enough to be discussed....again, just my opinion.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by onlychild

Guess these are questions I would ask or at least throw out before I spent over $100K (or less) on a card.

Those are questions most people that frequent this forum would ask. However just because you have $100k to spend on a card doesn't make you a knowledgeable collector.

I'm sure there are at least a couple of people in this hobby with the ability to spend $100k on a card and not really know a lot about the card other than what they're being told.

And as I've said before, once they own it getting a second opinion has no upside.

Edited to add: I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the Cobb/Cobb in question, but one would think a more solid example would bring the price realized. IMO

[Steve D]

I've been making a side-by-side comparison of the Goodwin Cobb with the REA Cobb, and have made an interesting observation. Take a look at the following scans, giving particular attention to the placement of the comma after "Cobb" in the caption, in relation to the seam in Cobb's jersey. Notice how in the Goodwin Cobb, the seam lines up directly above the comma. In the REA Cobb however, the seam is halfway between the "b" and the "D", and not directly over the comma. Also, in the Goodwin Cobb, the "D" is directly under the buttons.....in the REA example, it is not. It additionally appears that the caption on the Goodwin Cobb has narrower font than on the REA Cobb.



I don't know what this means, but it is interesting.

Steve

[barrysloate]

The comma definitely is in different positions on each card. The SGC Cobb looks exactly as you would expect it to look; the PSA one does have a bit of a different feel to it. The "D" on one is very gray, and black on the other.

These are of course just observations, I also don't know what to make of the discrepancies.

[Chicago206]

The REA Cobby is looking right at me...the Goodwin Cobb is looking up and to the left.

[Chicago206]

Those are 2 very distinct faces....anyone else see that?

[tedzan]

Hey guys, I have at least two T206's that have the background color spilling over the framed border of the card.
So, that upper left printing flaw is not unusual.

Also, if you compare many Red Cobb's, you will find an occasional one with the coma lining up with his uniform's
seam line.

Since I had a real close-up look at this card back in the March Philly Show, the thing that strikes me is the darker
Red background color, as compared to all other Red Cobb cards.


TED Z

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

The REA Cobby is looking right at me...the Goodwin Cobb is looking up and to the left.

That isn't unusual though. Due to the printing process, many T206s have registration issues with the eyes. On different examples of the same card, the eyes can be looking straight ahead, up, down, left or right. It's just the way they were printed.

Steve

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by Steve D

That isn't unusual though. Due to the printing process, many T206s have registration issues with the eyes. On different examples of the same card, the eyes can be looking straight ahead, up, down, left or right. It's just the way they were printed.

Steve

Ok, thanks. I just learned 2 new things. First, about the eyes, and second that the term "registration" doesnt just refer to the thin black line between the white border and the background.