Judge or Raleigh for MVP?

[cgjackson222]

I think it gets decided in the final games.

Raleigh has hit .208 since the All-Star game, and if he dips into the .230 range, I think it has hard to hand it over to him.

But if he pulls up his average towards .250, I think he deserves it.

Won't hurt if the Mariners make the postseason.

Pretty amazing that we can even have this debate. In most years, either would be a clear winner.

[D. Bergin]

Judge has a big lead in WAR and crushes all the hitting efficiency statistics but has fallen off in the traditional Triple Crown stats he was pushing for before the injury. Good chance he won't lead the league in any of those by the time the season is over.

I'm a believer in the analytics but also have a very healthy respect for the difficulty of the catcher position and regardless of whether his defense is off this year, compared to years past, I wonder if it's just a statistical anomaly or if he has some nagging injury that is affecting him defensively this year.

He's always proven himself capable in that aspect in the past. He's not exactly Mike Piazza back there.

It's going to ultimately come down to these last few weeks and whether one of them (and their team) get on a hot streak or not.

As a Yankee fan I had no issue when Altuve beat out Judge in 2017, and I'd have no problem with Raleigh winning it this year.

[packs]

Raleigh has been amazing for a catcher and a switch hitter. A really cool season but not the MVP in my opinion. Judge is killing the ball all the same and putting up another 200+ OPS season. He’s got the video game numbers even if Raleigh has a higher counting stats.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by packs

Raleigh has been amazing for a catcher and a switch hitter. A really cool season but not the MVP in my opinion. Judge is killing the ball all the same and putting up another 200+ OPS season. He’s got the video game numbers even if Raleigh has a higher counting stats.

Last night's performance certainly helped him also.

[packs]

Raleigh has a greater total but Salvador Perez led the league in homers with 48 and RBI’s with 121 in 2021. He also hit 273 while doing it. Another incredible year from a catcher but he finished 7th in MVP that year.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I must be a relic. A .239 hitter even under consideration for MVP?? WTF?? Judge, clearly.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I must be a relic. A .239 hitter even under consideration for MVP?? WTF?? Judge, clearly.

I could look past batting average if Raleigh were an on-base machine, but his OBP is only .354. And if you're inclined to look at WAR, he's actually behind teammate Julio Rodriguez.

The MVP race shouldn't even be close.